The swordfight minigame during the play seems easier!

[masterofflys]

Seems to me that it's easier to impress 100 nobles in this version.

I had some issues with the button prompts, since I'm not familiar with the XBox controller (going by muscle memory the entire time), so I screwed it up a few times, but as soon as I completed the duel without making a mistake - boom, 100 nobles. usually it takes a damned long time to make that happen!

Anyone else find it easier

[Crimson Hog]

引用自 Kaldire：

yadda, yadda, yadda...

Do you hear about "Queen Brahne was not impressed" meme?
Long years ago it was known that you can get 100% nobles but QB not be impressed.
Many speculated about additional nobles from sword strikes.

[Gabby]

He's essentially trying to make his version of reality the truth while mocking and laughing at anyone who tries to point out that everything he's using at evidence to claim the game was altered somehow is all stuff that's always actually been in the game. The only thing that makes sense is the faster response time due to not being limited by PSX hardware / controls. Everything prior to this has mostly been speculation, the only thing that can actually be confirmed is how much you get as a prize according to how many nobles you impress.

[Scarlet Crusade]

引用自 Crimson Hog：

Do you hear about "Queen Brahne was not impressed" meme?

I haven't, so I looked it up:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/queene-brahne-was-not-impressed

This still goes against the rules set by the original game, short of using some sort of cheat to make the number of nobles 100, you cannot get 100 nobles if you miss any inputs. There are 49 inputs. 1 point for getting it, 1 point for timing it. 49 * 2 = 98. 1 point for not missing any inputs, and 1 point for free. 98 + 2 = 100. There's only potential for 100 points, and you only get the 100 points if you don't miss any inputs. And if you don't miss any inputs, then Queen Brahne is impressed. I've done the sword fight in the original game enough times, both on console and on an emulator, to know that the only way to get 100 nobles on the original game is to not miss any inputs. I have personally missed inputs on the PC version and seen 100 nobles still impressed, but Queen Brahne was not impressed. But this is new, and you could not do this before. It's different.

I would not put it past cheating to be the origins of discovering this "meme", given as how one of the most popular "glitches" of FFIX, being able to get a Gold Chocobo before the airship, was also proven to be a hoax and someone who cheated to get all the Chocographs early.

[Gabby]

To clarify, what I'm saying is that this doesn't really confirm the rules have changed. It just confirms that due to the new hardware, the game's calculus for points might be altered. (They could, theoretically, have originally made the timing worth 1-4 points a strike but due to the PSX's hardware and controller response time, it was physically impossible to ever get more than 2 points a strike.)

It IS possible that they nerfed it. But I just simply believe that's leaping to a conclusion beyond reason. Timing can be a factor, a bug could be a factor, or a nerf. So saying one of the three is it is taking a leap towards a conclusion. You're literally only right by luck if it's any of the three.

For all we know the real point system is 1 for getting it, 1 for timing it within say, 50ms, 2 for 30 ms, and 3 for 10ms totally 4 a strike, eventually capping out.

It could also be that people have just gotten better and those that think they're missing really aren't. I don't know. I'm not as all knowing as some people on this board seem to assume they are. Like Kaldire. I like to actually get solid confirmation on a fact before deciding it is one. But then, I come from a generation that had news programs that wanted that too. Maybe it's a generational thing. <_<;

I dunno, it's why I want video evidence.

Evidence is far better then some jackass laughing in my face trying to call me stupid for questioning a leap to a conclusion and wanting solid evidence. Since you know, a proper fix would take knowing what the heck is actually wrong first.

[Scarlet Crusade]

Dunno about others, but to clarify what I meant by missing, I meant totally pressing the incorrect button. I myself as a long term user of an Xbox 360 controller still was tripped up and pressed A instead of X when the game told me to press X (habit from playing the original so much), and at the end of that particular run, I got 100/100 nobles, despite the fact that that should be impossible. Queen Brahne was, of course, not impressed. Short of pinpointing the location of the value and using Cheat Engine to track it, I'm not sure how you could prove or disprove the 1-4 points theory without looking at the code.

[The Nothing Man]

backpedal backpedal

nice

you want video evidence you want a dev to come here and say this was nerfed woww

mate really.. LOL
im done here haha I cant keep laughing this hard it hurts my face hahaha

"is" possible.. hahahaha first no way now is possible with proof ooookkk

bwahahaha

[The Nothing Man]

引用自 Scarlet Crusade：

Dunno about others, but to clarify what I meant by missing, I meant totally pressing the incorrect button. I myself as a long term user of an Xbox 360 controller still was tripped up and pressed A instead of X when the game told me to press X (habit from playing the original so much), and at the end of that particular run, I got 100/100 nobles, despite the fact that that should be impossible. Queen Brahne was, of course, not impressed. Short of pinpointing the location of the value and using Cheat Engine to track it, I'm not sure how you could prove or disprove the 1-4 points theory without looking at the code.

keywording there.. cheatengine :P
also the blog post which I wish I could find a few months before mobile release stating whats new.. new ui etc new 3d models etc, easier mini games etc

[Gabby]

引用自 Kaldire：

backpedal backpedal

nice

you want video evidence you want a dev to come here and say this was nerfed woww

There's no backpedal. There's you deciding to take my words and try ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around them.

By all means, provide actual evidence. You saying so is not evidence. You stating there's a means to provide the evidence isn't evidence. You kind of need to actually present it. Otherwise you're just hanging on the possibility of being right.

[The Nothing Man]

prove to you, that you can miss and get 100?
wow serpah hahaha just, umm

wow.

haha

[Crimson Hog]

引用自 Scarlet Crusade：

引用自 Crimson Hog：

Do you hear about "Queen Brahne was not impressed" meme?

I haven't, so I looked it up:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/queene-brahne-was-not-impressed

This still goes against the rules set by the original game...

Meme was forced about 6 ears ago. No steam or tablet FFIX back then.

[Gabby]

引用自 Kaldire：

prove to you, that you can miss and get 100?
wow serpah hahaha just, umm

wow.

haha

Yes, prove it.

[Disko Lemonade]

引用自 Game Tix：

引用自 blahblahblacksheep8：

A couple.. Maybe 3..

To get 100/100 nobles you absolutely have to hit all 48 commands without a mistake.

You can miss one. At least I got 100/100 with one missed action.

To impress the Queen AND all 100 nobles, then you can't miss a single action.

[Gabby]

It did always strike me odd that there was a bonus for hitting all the actions, if not hitting all the actions couldn't make a success.