Did the first Cid fight Ozma?

[Cress]

The texts in the chocograph pieces have been written by the first ruler of Lindblum, Cid I.
In the first one, it says:
``There...danger in the sky. If you dar...to face it, use this rec...to find your way.''
And all the other pieces shows you the possible places where the Chocobo Aerial Garden appears.
Well, he did know about the existence of the Aerial Garden, then this "danger" that he refers to, it could only be Ozma, no?

[masterofflys]

Originally posted by clawsofdeath9:

Originally posted by masterofflys:

Ark may well be ancient, given that he guards the Gulug Stone in Oeilvert, which has existed on Gaia for thousands of years. His location and circumstances are as suspect as Ozma's, frankly...

we are getting to the bottom of this ;)

Damn straight :D

Going back to my speculation about the jewel - the only other summon stone and eidolon to be split besides the jewel and Alexander are the pummice and Ark. Coincidence?? :D

[Cress]

Originally posted by masterofflys:

Keep in mind though that Ozam also posesses Dark Matter ^

But Pumice is a drop. Dark Matter is a steal. Since Ozma is guaranteed to drop a Pumice after it is defeated, makes me wonder.

[masterofflys]

Dark Matter can be a drop also I believe? Not that I think that you're wrong about Ark's link to Ozma, just that it's not unique.

[Cress]

And how the hell did Cid reach the Aerial Garden? He must've been a badass.

[clawsofdeath9]

Originally posted by Cress:

Originally posted by clawsofdeath9:

I gues Ozma guards the Pumice for Ark eidolon...thats it i gues. Ark is ancient maybe? cause Ozma is supose to be very ancient...

I always wondered why Ozma has a Pumice. The only way to summon Ark on disc 3 is defeating Ozma, since the only one who can fuse the 2 Pumice pieces is Hades on disc 4.

i wonder if Ades is of this ancient time too like Ark and Ozma and Cid I, cause he is called the legendary synthesis and he know Ozma cause he says this if you defeat Ozma before encountering him

Hades : "Wh-What!? you have defeated Ozma!?" "I have come too far to retreat." "Onward!"

[masterofflys]

Suppose Ozma was summoned on the forgotten continent?

Suppose magic was used to suspend the Air Garden - say, using the land that occupied the crater containing Ipsen's Castle? :D

[masterofflys]

Originally posted by clawsofdeath9:

Originally posted by Cress:

I always wondered why Ozma has a Pumice. The only way to summon Ark on disc 3 is defeating Ozma, since the only one who can fuse the 2 Pumice pieces is Hades on disc 4.

i wonder if Ades is of this ancient time too like Ark and Ozma and Cid I, cause he is called the legendary synthesis and he know Ozma cause he says this if you defeat Ozma before encoubterubg him

Hades : "Wh-What!? you have defeated Ozma!?" "I have come too far to retreat." "Onward!"

Given Hades' power, and his well-known legend, he may well be an Eidolon himself ;)

[clawsofdeath9]

Originally posted by masterofflys:

Keep in mind though that Ozam also posesses Dark Matter ^

now that you mention it theres some related stuff to odin on ipsen castle.

[masterofflys]

Indeed there is. And Odin's power is not insubstantial either.

[Narcoleptic Marshmallow]

Ark is clearly a Terran eidolon. He is found in Oielvert, which used to be located in Terra before the failed merge attempted by Garland.

Hades, who offers to make Pumice, something he claims only he can do, has eyes on his throne and scepter, which are also Terran design elements.

Ozma is, supposedly, an eidolon so ancient it was forgotten by time itself.

I don't know how these things fit together, just throwing it out here for the sake of conversation.

[Cress]

Originally posted by Eri:

Ark is clearly a Terran eidolon. He is found in Oielvert, which used to be located in Terra before the failed merge attempted by Garland.

Hades, who offers to make Pumice, something he claims only he can do, has eyes on his throne and scepter, which are also Terran design elements.

Ozma is, supposedly, an eidolon so ancient it was forgotten by time itself.

I don't know how these things fit together, just throwing it out here for the sake of conversation.

Very interesting points.

[masterofflys]

I had thought Ark might be Terran as well. It's a little hard to reconcile with Garland's fear of Gaia's summoner tribe, but there you have it. It also accounts for the invincible's ability to manipulate Eidolons, and Ark's resemblance to a hi-tech Airship.

The two separate pummice pieces and Ark's dark elemental nature in contrast to Gaia's ultimate Eidolon, Alexander are also a nice touch and fit the pattern.

[masterofflys]

One line that may be relevent: 'Garland tried a more forceful method once'

A battle between Alexander and Ark perhaps?

[Cress]

Originally posted by masterofflys:

I had thought Ark might be Terran as well. It's a little hard to reconcile with Garland's fear of Gaia's summoner tribe, but there you have it. It also accounts for the invincible's ability to manipulate Eidolons, and Ark's resemblance to a hi-tech Airship.

The two separate pummice pieces and Ark's dark elemental nature in contrast to Gaia's ultimate Eidolon, Alexander are also a nice touch and fit the pattern.

I always thought that Ark was a little out of place in comparison to the other eidolons. He always felt like an artifical thing, a machine, while all the other eidolons are clearly organic beings. And the fact that Hades has some signs of Terra tech within his design and claims that ONLY he can make the Pumice... makes me to really accept the theory that Ark and Hades are from Terra.

[masterofflys]

Originally posted by Cress:

Originally posted by masterofflys:

I had thought Ark might be Terran as well. It's a little hard to reconcile with Garland's fear of Gaia's summoner tribe, but there you have it. It also accounts for the invincible's ability to manipulate Eidolons, and Ark's resemblance to a hi-tech Airship.

The two separate pummice pieces and Ark's dark elemental nature in contrast to Gaia's ultimate Eidolon, Alexander are also a nice touch and fit the pattern.

I always thought that Ark was a little out of place in comparison to the other eidolons. He always felt like an artifical thing, a machine, while all the other eidolons are clearly organic beings. And the fact that Hades has some signs of Terra tech within his design and claims that ONLY he can make the Pumice... makes me to really accept the theory that Ark and Hades are from Terra.

Alexander also has a tech-themed design, though his is more steampunk. But that just makes the comparisson more facinating!