Beatrix is so cool

[Vayne]

I enjoy a lot to be able to use her in battle. Thanks to alternate fantasy mod to make this happen

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2130195799

[SoVEoCLoCK]

Can't wait til the standalone version is updated to work with Moguri. Once that happens, my next playthrough's a go.

[Vayne]

Originally posted by SoVEoCLoCK:

Can't wait til the standalone version is updated to work with Moguri. Once that happens, my next playthrough's a go.

I use this with moguri mod...there is a version that work with moguri

[✚ Mariel ✚]

Her abilities are cool, though I don't think the story presents her well. She's initially arrogant and condescending as she engages in massacres and war crimes. This arrogance is even more abrasive because she is benefiting from plot armour.

After she finds out that a certain character is in danger her personality suddenly flips and she becomes modest, sensible and romantic. It's like her personality was suddenly swapped out.

I think it would've been better if she had a bit less plot armour, or if there was a fight where she can be defeated in the late game or something, and if she experiences a gradual character development from an arrogant and narcissistic war criminal to a true knight.

But her abilities, music and appearance are all very cool XD

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Mr. Branford:

Originally posted by Kiri:

Her abilities are cool

She literally has the same abilities Steiner can learn and white magic Eiko can learn. Nothing special about other than the lv. bonus overpowered Save the Queen.

She starts off from the get-go with a powerful mix of paladin like abilities, two classes mixed together. She has above average stats and can pretty much faceroll everything she encounters even when stripped of most of her gear at any point you get her in the story. Her abilities from Steiner are abilities Steiner doesn't get until basically the very very end of the game, at which point it is hilariously pointless because you are just using basic attack with Steiner and Zidane at that point to mow over all opposition. Thunderslash is trash and the Final Three abilities come from the very best end weapons so you don't get to really use them. Meanwhile, Beatrix gets them super early along with powerful supportive and healing abilities.

Beatrix has this domineering atmosphere about her both in terms of personality, overwhelming might, position and history, and even appearance.

I don't quite agree with Kiri in that her personality swapped. She still maintains a lot of what she was before and she was slightly arrogant as one of such power would typically be, but she wasn't short sighted or stupid. She merely adhered to her code of honor. As for condescending... its true she was far stronger than our party so why wouldn't she look down on them? She didn't even try and she nearly slaughtered the group during their first encounter leaving them for dead. She is never mockingly condescending. She merely knows she is stronger and looks at them with some degree of pity.

What plot armor are you talking about exactly Kiri? She is too strong for our party to defeat. Even if we got her HP to zero in the battle she would just get serious and instantly wipe us because she wasn't fighting seriously to begin with. That isn't plot armor. Even at the end of the game her might still rivals and may exceed everyone except Zidane, Garland, and Kuja (obv excluding the special true final boss).

While feelings for Steiner do develop over the story she puts her duty first and foremost. She is actually indicated by Baku and others to be rather warm and treat others well though she is also extremely strict with her soldiers, as well as herself. She absolutely never displayed any degree of narcissism. Her entire character is about self sacrifice.

Personally, I liked her because she breaks the typical mold of being excessively romantically inclined, throwing everything to the wind, or having power she earned that can rival and exceed the strongest, while not being a true bad guy and having some character development that isn't half bad in the story. It would have been great if she had more focus but what we got was still pretty great.