Are you serious about the card tournament?

[Clawd Vahlen]

So i'm not allowed to keep playing the main game UNTIL i beat this stupid card game?
The hell?
I just wanna play the game!

[ᛉᛏneon@stralᚨᛉ]

Do you also complain about Blitzball in FFX and other un-avoidable story mini games that every modern 3D FF has?
Its not like its exclusive to IX

[Clawd Vahlen]

No to be honest i just had to vent off that's why i wrote this thread.
I just hate that i HAVE to win atleast 2 of these card games.
I just wanna go on with the story.

[Gabby]

Originally posted by Clawd Vahlen 1.4.0.4.1.2 D.T.E.F:

No to be honest i just had to vent off that's why i wrote this thread.
I just hate that i HAVE to win atleast 2 of these card games.
I just wanna go on with the story.

They kind of purposefully give you the two dumbest AIs for that event that can be found in the game. You can probably win by randomly putting down cards. <_<;

[Clawd Vahlen]

Yeah i actually got it^^

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Clawd Vahlen 1.4.0.4.1.2 D.T.E.F:

No to be honest i just had to vent off that's why i wrote this thread.
I just hate that i HAVE to win atleast 2 of these card games.
I just wanna go on with the story.

Do you? I haven't ever lost there but I know losing at least in the final is allowed but you don't get the rebirth ring or w/e. Do you have to win the first two or have you tried and it actually might let you if you try to advance and just get knocked out of the tournament?

[Clawd Vahlen]

You HAVE to win the first 2 games or else the story doesn't go on.
But i did it now :p
Aaaand no i lost at the last (3rd) game =_=.
But i can atleast keep on playing the story.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Clawd Vahlen 1.4.0.4.1.2 D.T.E.F:

You HAVE to win the first 2 games or else the story doesn't go on.
But i did it now :p
Aaaand no i lost at the last (3rd) game =_=.
But i can atleast keep on playing the story.

Ah okay. If it makes you feel better...
1. ) You can get the ring via synthesis shop later (extra city, fly to reach) IIRC.
2. ) It sounds cool but actually sucks. Auto-life works once per battle and the AP cost (or w/e cost for abilities equip) is insanely high, like actually legit ludicrous. You will need those points for other things on actual harder enemies, especially super bosses/hidden mobs for things like anti-freeze/heat/etc. and even with the max amount of points it can be very difficult to fit Auto-Life as other options are simply better.

[Clawd Vahlen]

Hm okay.
Thanks for the information^^

[TotalBlank]

I understand not liking the card game, most people don't but it doesn't take long to just lose a couple of matches to essentially "skip" it or actually put in a few minutes of effort to easily get a couple of perfect victories and destroy the opponents.

[Pilda]

Players these days...

[Ash vs. Himself]

Originally posted by Clawd Vahlen 1.4.0.4.1.2 D.T.E.F:

So i'm not allowed to keep playing the main game UNTIL i beat this stupid card game?
The hell?
I just wanna play the game!

This game is all interruptions all the time. You think, "Oh, finally, I'm in a place to explore." Nope. Active time events out the wazoo (with sloooooow pacing). You think, "Finally, I got my whole group together." Nope. Stuff happens to make sure you can't use them all.

Seriously, this game is built on the ethos of interrupting gameplay.

[Laharl_Chan]

yeah its easy. the hard one, is cid

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Ash vs. Himself:

Originally posted by Clawd Vahlen 1.4.0.4.1.2 D.T.E.F:

So i'm not allowed to keep playing the main game UNTIL i beat this stupid card game?
The hell?
I just wanna play the game!

This game is all interruptions all the time. You think, "Oh, finally, I'm in a place to explore." Nope. Active time events out the wazoo (with sloooooow pacing). You think, "Finally, I got my whole group together." Nope. Stuff happens to make sure you can't use them all.

Seriously, this game is built on the ethos of interrupting gameplay.

I actually REALLY liked the active time system and some of the minor route/event changes that occur because of it and actions of the player as it adds more flavor and development to characters/events/story. Also, the game tries to reinforce using a wider variety of characters instead of having a cast of like 8-10 people and using, literally, only 3-4 of them for an entire game never touching the others... especially when different characters have pre-defined roles so it switches up actual combat as well. It might be more of this FF isn't for you while others FFs may appeal to you more.

Regarding the cards, a rather bizarre design fact that almost ALL of the interesting/unique cards are acquired only after the tournament when there honestly isn't a real purpose to them from that point on.

[Gabby]

Not to mention ATEs are purely optional. <_<;

I think some people have trouble realizing that RPGs aren't about fast paced gameplay or storytelling. They're meant to be taken time with and explored.

As a note, the reason the card game gives no real rewards outside that one event is because they were addressing the complaint that FF8's card game carried a sense of obligation to play due to the rewards. So instead they focused on making the game fun and collectible but didn't tie it to any real rewards as a trade off.

The game itself was developed as a stand alone card came in both video game and physical cards outside FF9, so it was really just made to be fun.

[pre-eminence]

Originally posted by Gabby:

Not to mention ATEs are purely optional. <_<;

I think some people have trouble realizing that RPGs aren't about fast paced gameplay or storytelling. They're meant to be taken time with and explored.

As a note, the reason the card game gives no real rewards outside that one event is because they were addressing the complaint that FF8's card game carried a sense of obligation to play due to the rewards. So instead they focused on making the game fun and collectible but didn't tie it to any real rewards as a trade off.

The game itself was developed as a stand alone card came in both video game and physical cards outside FF9, so it was really just made to be fun.

Yet triple triad is far more fun imo and only required for low level finishing in FFVIII, though I can see why a lot of players would want the rewards regardless of play style. Thanks for the info on why they designed it this way, just wish they hadn't lol tetra master sucks :/

Not sure you can say an RPG isn't about the story though... Without a story the lore of the world is meaningless to me so why would I explore? But then maybe i'm the odd one out?