The Necron theory ( Spoiler)..Plot topic

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NECRON IS THE SPIRITUAL FORM OF THE LIFA TREE WHICH BLOCKS THE GAIAN'S SOULS PREVENTING THEM TO RETURN TO THE CRYSTAL.
Necron is the TRUE FORM OF THE LIFA TREE. The one Garland was talking about in Pandemonium.

1) THE TRUE FORM OF THE LIFA TREE ACTS IN IMMATERIAL PLANE.
That spiritual form prevents the gaian's soul to return to the crystal. This part of the Lifa Tree works in immaterial plane. When a person dies his soul returns to the crystal and is the tree acting.
In a nutshell to meet the true shape of the Tree of Lifa, it is necessary to die to reach the immaterial plane in which the true form ot the Lifa tree ( Necron for me) acts.

Garland tell us the true form of The lifa Tree do not act in material plane.

Zidane
"Oh yeah? But we stopped the Mist! So much for that!"

Garland
"All you saw was the back of the tree..."
"Even now, the Iifa Tree blocks the flow of Gaia's souls, while it lets
those of Terra flow freely."

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"Such is the Iifa Tree's true purpose, its true form. ALL YOU SEE WAS ITS MATERIAL FORM."
"The flow of Gaia's souls cannot be changed simply by stopping the disposal
of Mist."


2) LIFA TREE DIDN'T DIE BECAUSE TERRA WAS DESTROYED AND LIFA TREE DIDN'T DIE BECAUSE KUJA WANTED IT. MORE, THE LIFA TREE WAS PERFECTLY WORKING BEFORE FIGHTING KUJA.


This is proven by Kuja's words in the Crystal Word before facing Deathgaze.

" Even if You Kill me Gaia is doomed. Its assimilation by Terra has begun and the Lifa tree will incite a cataclysmic destruction of Gaia".

These worlds of Kuja confirm us many facts

A) Kuja didn' destroy Terra's Crystal but just the surface and the structures. So the Lifa tree didn't die because of Terra's destruction. At most it lost control due to Garland's death. Probably mist and memoria's gate are part of the cataclysm which Kuja is talking about.
B) Lifa tree is not under Kuja's control because the killing of kuja won't stop the fusion.
C) Lifa tree is still alive And it will complete the fusion of Gaia with Terra destroying Gaia.

The first conclusion is that there is no explaination about the Lifa tree's death.
The second conclusion is that something happened which stopped/killed Lifa Tree preventing it to complete the fusion.


3) The only plausible explanation is that Lifa tree died after killing Necron and if we assume that Necron is the true form of the Lifa Tree it makes sense.

*Another option is that Kuja stopped Lifa tree after his repentance. It' s plausible considering that Kuja can do almost everything in Trance status. However I do not think Kuja stopped the Lifa tree because Kuja Himself says that Killing him won't stop the fusion. This suggests that Kuja had no power over the Lifa Tree.

The only thing we know for sure is that something has prevented Lifa Tree from ending the Fusion after the battle with Kuja. This is a fact, not an opinion.
It's been Kuja after his repentance? Or it was Necron's death.? I do not see other options.
After Kuja's worlds "Even if You Kill me Gaia is doomed. Its assimilation by Terra has begun and the Lifa tree will incite a cataclysmic destruction of Gaia" only events are Kuja's repentance and Necron's defeat.
So Lifa Tree's death is caused from one of these two events.


4) KUJA KILLED THE PARTY and party's souls meet the true form of the Lifa tree. The spiritual one which blocks the Gaian's soul preventing them to return to the crystal.
If we assume that Kuja, by throwing Ultima, has killed us it is plausible that the party could meet the spiritual part of the Lifa Tree, that part which blocks the souls, preventing them from returning to the crystal.

*If we look closely at the scene in which Kuja casts Ultima in the Crystal World we can see the party disappears, as happens to all the characters who die during normal battles.
This is probably not casual since when Kuja casted Ultima during the battle on Terra Gidan and co. di not disappear. The authors are telling us that Kuja Killed us.

5)iKuja did not destroy che Cristal casting Ultima.
Indeed we can see the intact cristal behind Kuja after he casted Ultima. So who talks about the crystal's destroyed is mistaking. The cristal is perfectly intact after Kuja casted Ultima.

6) Then we can assume that Kuja resurrects the party teleporting them out of the dying Lifa tree. This part is sure even without considering the Necron's theory.

In conclusion

1) Lifa tree has a spiritual form which acts in immaterial plane. It's Necron.
2) Lifa Tree after Garland's death lost controll and begins the assimilation of Gaia by Terra. This is the cause of Mist and maybe even of the Memoria gate opened.
3) Kuja kills us in the Crystal world.
4) Party's souls meet Necron, the true form of the Lifa Tree. The party Kills Necron and the Lifa Tree become madness because it is near to death ( like the evil forest when we killed the boss).
5) Kuja resurrects us.


OTHER EVIDENCES Which CONNECT NECRON TO TERRA,GAIA and the Crystal.

1) Necron's face is identical to the faces we saw at Oeilvert
2) Necron is BLUE ( like Gaia) and he becomes red when attacks ( Like Terra)
3) In the structure surrounding Necron we can see eyes which open and close. These eyes are identical to those we saw in the Pandemonium and in the Invincible.
4)In the Hill of despair we hear lamentations that could be the laments of souls blocked by Necron wich can not return to Crystal. Assuming that, the Hill of Despair is the location, in immaterial plane, where souls remain blocked unable to return to the crystal.
5)Necron is made up of 2 circles that rotate, very similar to the circles surrounding the original Crystal.

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Originally posted by Dwight:

Wiki, humanoid & its Iifa

I said the theory is not mine.
I don't understand the post.

[Iido]

I don't really have any theories to directly place Necron into the storyline, but I do have my own personal view of him, which I developed over the years, and from a comment I once read on GameFAQs that really gave me a new perspective on the character.

Necron is basically death. He is death incarnate. The embodiment of the end itself. Necron represents death and annihilation, while the crystal represents life.

FFIX has a constant underlying theme of "life" and "death". Characters must deal with these topics constantly throughout the game. Vivi fears his impending "stop" date, as do all the black mages who are aware of their limited lifespan. Garnet has to deal with the death of two mothers. A large number of Gaians die in war throughout the game. Death is everywhere in FFIX; but at the same time, the story is about life, as well. About finding your place in the world, finding purpose, a reason to exist.

Zidane and Vivi both have to deal with being creations meant to destroy, yet they find their place in the world. Steiner has to find purpose in life beyond serving Brahne, once he realizes how corrupt she is. Garnet tries to find purpose in life beyond just being the Queen of some country. I could go on, but you get the picture. The story is about finding your place in the world, a reason to live, a reason for existence.

Necron is the ultimate antitesis to this. It opposes all life, because its very nature is to destroy all. Necron is the physical representation of death and the end. It is not really a villain, or even evil. It is more a force of nature. When it saw Kuja's attempt to destroy the Crystal, it assumed life had given up, and was ready to accept death. By fighting it, you are essentially overcoming death, and proving to it that you have the right, and the will, to live and exist. What better final boss for a game about life, and finding your place in the world, than death itself? The final battle is a metaphor for life's struggle to overcome death and continue on.

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Originally posted by Iido:

I don't really have any theories to directly place Necron into the storyline, but I do have my own personal view of him, which I developed over the years, and from a comment I once read on GameFAQs that really gave me a new perspective on the character.

Necron is basically death. He is death incarnate. The embodiment of the end itself. Necron represents death and annihilation, while the crystal represents life.

FFIX has a constant underlying theme of "life" and "death". Characters must deal with these topics constantly throughout the game. Vivi fears his impending "stop" date, as do all the black mages who are aware of their limited lifespan. Garnet has to deal with the death of two mothers. A large number of Gaians die in war throughout the game. Death is everywhere in FFIX; but at the same time, the story is about life, as well. About finding your place in the world, finding purpose, a reason to exist.

Zidane and Vivi both have to deal with being creations meant to destroy, yet they find their place in the world. Steiner has to find purpose in life beyond serving Brahne, once he realizes how corrupt she is. Garnet tries to find purpose in life beyond just being the Queen of some country. I could go on, but you get the picture. The story is about finding your place in the world, a reason to live, a reason for existence.

Necron is the ultimate antitesis to this. It opposes all life, because its very nature is to destroy all. Necron is the physical representation of death and the end. It is not really a villain, or even evil. It is more a force of nature. When it saw Kuja's attempt to destroy the Crystal, it assumed life had given up, and was ready to accept death. By fighting it, you are essentially overcoming death, and proving to it that you have the right, and the will, to live and exist. What better final boss for a game about life, and finding your place in the world, than death itself? The final battle is a metaphor for life's struggle to overcome death and continue on.

Well..I said it in my premise. The main meaning of Necron is this and for this reason authors never gave him a sense in the plot.
Necron must remain the embodiment of death and this is the principal meaning of this final boss.

How I said however, I retain that Necron has a sense even in the plot and I think that authors gave us a lot of evidence to understand Necron is connected with Lifa tree. Memoria disappear after Necron dead, and Lifa tree start dying after killing Necron.
Even the style of this boss is not casual and there are a lot of evidence which connect him to Terra..The eyes in the structure behind Necron, the face of Necron connect him to Terra. The eyes are not casual..Imho.


Why Ultimania and the Game didn't say us clearly? Because the very important meaning of Necron is philosophical..But I repeat..Necron has a sense even in the plot.

[MerlinSpreu7103]

Garlant talking about the part of Iifa we can see on the Outer Continent. This a little part of the whole tree. In the Ultimania there is a graphic of the planet gaia with the whole tree reaching the centre/ the crystal of the world:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/6/67/Gaia-terra-assimilation.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130521072501

This is what garlant means with the invisible part of Iifa. The visible part is on the surface of gaia, are only the roots, who containing the mist. The interesting part, where the soul dividing is processing. is the part in the underground, near the crystal, and this part of Iifa haven't seen Zidane and the other, and the soul dividing isn't stop by defeating soulcage, only the expulsion of mist. Garlant explains, that the soul dividing and terran replacement process are just working in the deeper parts of the tree.

There isn't more and no connection to necron. All narrative in the game explain Necrons existence and meaning as a part in the cycle of life and death, how Iido it has explained.

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Originally posted by MerlinSpreu7103:

Garlant talking about the part of Iifa we can see on the Outer Continent. This a little part of the whole tree. In the Ultimania there is a graphic of the planet gaia with the whole tree reaching the centre/ the crystal of the world:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/6/67/Gaia-terra-assimilation.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130521072501

This is what garlant means with the invisible part of Iifa. The visible part is on the surface of gaia, are only the roots, who containing the mist. The interesting part, where the soul dividing is processing. is the part in the underground, near the crystal, and this part of Iifa haven't seen Zidane and the other, and the soul dividing isn't stop by defeating soulcage, only the expulsion of mist. Garlant explains, that the soul dividing and terran replacement process are just working in the deeper parts of the tree.

There isn't more and no connection to necron. All narrative in the game explain Necrons existence and meaning as a part in the cycle of life and death, how Iido it has explained.

Not really, I read Ultimania and I said it in my premise..Garland didn't say that the true form of Iifa Tree was the one which surroinding the Crystal. Even that part is material, and we can reach that part too according to Ultimania. In fact Kuja reach the original Cristal, so we could reach Gaian's Cristal.
Garland tell us that the real form of The IIfa Tree is the one which blocks the souls preventing them returning to the crystal and indeed he tell us that part do not act in material plane.

"Such is the Iifa Tree's true purpose, its true form. ALL YOU SEE WAS ITS MATERIAL FORM."

If there is a material form, there is an immaterial form too. The roots surroinding the Crystal are not immaterial...There isn't to much to explain. It's obvious to stop the souls there is an immaterial part.
We do not see Souls which return to the original Cristal when we go there,we can't see them. They can't be stopped in material way by simple roots and Garland explain it very well. Souls are souls, dead peaple...We became souls after death, and what Iifa Tree do is blocks death peaple to return to the crystal.Garland clearly tell us that Iifa Tree acts in imaterial plane, and it is normal, it has to block dead peaple.

Ultimania never said that Iifa Tree blocks the soul because it is located around Gaian's cristal..Ultimania says what we already know playing the game. Iifa tree has origin in tbe centre of the planet, and what we saw on Gaia are simply roots..We knew that even playing the game .Garland explains it very well, without needing of Ultimania...Souls are not blocked by roots, souls are blocked by the true form of IIfa Tree which don't act in material plane and for that it can't be stopped.
Even the routs around the cristal are simply roots, Garland explains it too..

[MerlinSpreu7103]

No this is a misunderstanding, the truely roots of Iifa works on the surface. What you thinks to be the tree and the treetop on the surface garlant declares are truely only the roots. He talk to Zidane about Iifa Tree, what is seen by Zidane and Zidane only see the tree on the surface. Garlant explain that this isn't the important part of the tree. The real treetop of Iifa is inside gaia near the crystal.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/d/de/Gaia%27s-Crystal-Artwork.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20130502011133

The soul dividing process is indead a immaterial process, like life stream in FFVII the souls aren't visible or have a material form in the soul cycle until Iifa exclude them from the cycle and the crystal and transform them into mist to store it in his roots (and then expulse on the surface). Iifa covers the crystal und so blocks most of gaian souls, when try to go back to it. This doesn't means there were a spiritual form of Iifa, he only works on a non-material plain, when he refuses the gaian souls to come back to the crystal and infuse terran souls.

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Originally posted by MerlinSpreu7103:

No this is a misunderstanding, the truely roots of Iifa works on the surface. What you thinks to be the tree and the treetop on the surface garlant declares are truely only the roots. He talk to Zidane about Iifa Tree, what is seen by Zidane and Zidane only see the tree on the surface. Garlant explain that this isn't the important part of the tree. The real treetop of Iifa is inside gaia near the crystal.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/d/de/Gaia%27s-Crystal-Artwork.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20130502011133

The soul dividing process is indead a immaterial process, like life stream in FFVII the souls aren't visible or have a material form in the soul cycle until Iifa exclude them from the cycle and the crystal and transform them into mist to store it in his roots (and then expulse on the surface). Iifa covers the crystal und so blocks most of gaian souls, when try to go back to it. This doesn't means there were a spiritual form of Iifa, he only works on a non-material plain, when he refuses the gaian souls to come back to the crystal and infuse terran souls.

Well, it could be as you say, but could even be like I say..Garland tell us that all we have seen is the material form of the IIfa Tree and that we can not stop the process just blocking the disposal of Mist. What is the material form of the IIfa Tree? Is it the one on the centre of the planet? Or is it some that works in non-material plane and then can not be stopped?
Then, to be correct, mist is't Gaian's souls, Mist is what remains of Gaian's souls after the process in which Soulcage Subistitutes Gaian's soul with some Terra's elements commuting Gaian's souls in Terra's Souls.

Ultimania explains it well.

1) Iifa Tree true form blocks the Souls...This is not sufficient to ending Fusion because Terra's flows remains to week...
2) Garland creates Soulcage to restore Terra's flows using Gaian's souls...Then Soulcage commutes Gaian's souls in Terra's souls..During this process Mist is created.
3) What remains of Gaian's souls ( the elements discarded ) is rejected on Gaia's surface by the Roots.
4) Gaian's souls, commuteted in Terra' souls, now can return to the crystal.


Then, I repeat myself...The elements which connects Necron to Terra are not inventions..It would be sufficient talking of the eyes in the structure surroinding Necron..The eyes are ricurrent in every Terra's structure, beginning from the Invincible's eye, passing from Pandemonium and concluding with the Interior of Invincibile..Even the face of Necron, the color of Necron, connect him with Terra..
Without talking of the most important fact...Iifa Tree dies after Necron's death with no reason..Considering Kuja's worlds before fighting him Iifa tree shouldn't die, Kuja tell us that Gaia is doomed and his destinity is to be assimilated by Terra.
After those worlds, Iifa Tree dies with no reason..
A lot of peaple connect Iifa tree's death with Terra's destruction but this theory is not credibile..

Terra was destroyed 11 days before Kuja's fight..If Iifa Tree had to die cause ot Terra's destruction Kuja would known it....
Then is ridicolous to think that Iifa Tree die for an avent happened 11 days before, casually, just after Kuja's and Necon's defeath...

Authors gave us a lot of evidence for what I understood playing the game...
They never wanted to say what Necron is because Necron, in this game, must have another meaning.
But Autohors gave us a lot of evidence to understand the connection betwen Necron and Iifa Tree..

The Hill of despair too, with SOuls lamenting, is another little clue.

[slmorton]

Necron, like many other things in FF9, is a callback to elements of previous games of the series. In this case, it is an agent of The Void, the opposite of the Crystal. Whereas the Crystal exists to create, entities such as Necron seek to return everything to nothingness. Direct manifestations of this being include the Cloud of Darkness in FF3, Neo-Exdeath in FF5, and Necron in FF9. Other beings that were possibly influenced by this entity include Kefka from FF6 and Ultimecia from FF8. Necron was, in essence, the opposite of the Crystal. Kuja's actions attracted the attention of this entity, who saw an opportunity to achieve its goal.

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Originally posted by ScornfulEpex:

Originally posted by slmorton:

Necron, like many other things in FF9, is a callback to elements of previous games of the series. In this case, it is an agent of The Void, the opposite of the Crystal. Whereas the Crystal exists to create, entities such as Necron seek to return everything to nothingness. Direct manifestations of this being include the Cloud of Darkness in FF3, Neo-Exdeath in FF5, and Necron in FF9. Other beings that were possibly influenced by this entity include Kefka from FF6 and Ultimecia from FF8. Necron was, in essence, the opposite of the Crystal. Kuja's actions attracted the attention of this entity, who saw an opportunity to achieve its goal.

Makes sense. +1

Ultimania says that Necron was born from Kuja..

[D th W rm]

This came up as priority search result for necron lore in 2025. I can barely understand op through the spelling errors and leaps in logic. Theres some stuff that you can take away like the highlights of character dialogs to maybe consider your own theories but outside of that, theres major leaps, stretches, and alot of imaginative ideas here that dont seem grounded with ingame referance and sources. idk guys, i think this necron guy was a quick after thought insert and we're trying to see things that arent there, in a game we love.

[D th W rm]

i think lido came closest to potentially what the meaning of necron was to the game. As we can kinda only directly attribute them to being "the end", their general approach towards looking at the whole of the story rather than trying to find threads to explain necron is probably the most reasonable theory we got here boys.

[Tyloric]

I don't think Necron really requires any deep thought or extra meaning to it's existence.

It is Death. So long as there is Death there is Necron. It's the same principle to that pivotal moment in FF7. Death comes suddenly and with little regard for the lives it effects. It is callous, unassuming, and uncaring.

Calling it the antithesis or the crystal I believe isn't exactly correct, I feel. It is a very intentional decision that we know nothing about Necron and that there is no lead up or hint to its existence.

[Muns]

This topic is superb, I didn't realise the meaning Necron had in the story.

[Krypto]

Necron is a badly implemented plot device that leaves before it ever gets its hooks into you.

Kuja should have had another form after trance for the final boss.