Create Your own team advice

[magiccarrot24]

Can anyone give advice on the creating your own team? It feels almost impossible to make progress in this mode, due to not being able to replace players that are as good as your starting squad at a fast enough rate. You can't buy any players that are as good or potentially as good, and you can't develop players fast enough, eventually you stagnate because you can barely win games therefore can't gain glory which is essential for any real progress in the game.

[Andrei Baciu]

Originally posted by magiccarrot24:

It feels almost impossible to make progress in this mode.

What mode? I recommend you start in easy mode. Managing FTG economy is more important than winning games. Money first, results later. You did not mention the DLC you play so i can not give any advice if you don't mention it.

As for creating your team i think mostly it ruins the fun. FTG is about managing low resources and building up the club.

[Robin Noah]

Same question with the first comment: what mode and what DLC are you playing on?

It's tough at beginning, and I advice to focus on youth. Also, if you have good tactics in matches, you can get good results.

Talking about youth, I usually sell some valuable old footballers and buy some very young footballers at beginning (one or two stars would be great). Only my advice though. Keeping experienced old footballers is also a way.

I shall say, the toughness from the beginning is also a way of enjoying the process of developing. It is difficult, but you may have great fun when you try to figure everything out then overcome the obstacle. Have fun!

[_K_o_S_]

- When you create your team, you get many very powerful but old footballers.
- If you understand the game mechanics, you can rise their interest in the first transfer window and sell them for the good price. But this is not necessary. Just a possibility.
- In FTG, you can win stronger opponents with a weaker team if you understand the game mechanics. So there isn't anything wrong with Create your team mode - it's absolutely playable and not as hard if you understand the game. For comparison, creating your own team on the Hard mode is where it is really hard. But even there, experienced players find their way up (but it takes many seasons, and it is one of the most interesting parts of the game for many).
- However, as a new player, there's a lot to learn. So there's another side to the game - losing is not the end of the world. It's your personal story after all. But I know that figuring out the game can take time.
- You can quit matches without any consequences if you don't like result. I advice that not to make you reroll the final score. Some players told me that it allowed them to better learn the game. They left matches, tried another approach, learned what works and what not, and thus were becoming better in the game.
- Tactically, there are advice in the game from the old coach. I will recall some - you use Hold action often (until you figure when to not do that), don't play with tired footballers, learn how different skills work and search the players with skills (or train your players), figure out how Headers work (they are probably the most powerful tool in the game), change your tactics to every opponent, learn what different attacking classes do and use that to your advantage.
- Economically - buy low sell high. Usually, if you buy a footballer without a skill, then train him a skill and make sure he plays enough so his interest is high, you can earn good cash.
- Have fun on your way!

[magiccarrot24]

I don't have any DLC it's the vanilla game. It's normal difficulty. Managing money isn't an issue I've got a bucket load of cash but can't spend it because the stumbling block is gaining glory points. You need glory points to buy most players.

The good players you start with are all going to retire in under 3 years, and the players available to buy are worse than the players you have that are about to retire and aren't particularly young.

You can't upgrade anything without winning games as the block in progress is gaining glory points which can only be gained by winning games or a small amount at the end of the season but the amount you gain at the end of the same won't cover buying new players.

Generally I finish in the top 3 the first season, but by that point almost all of my good players need to be sold off so they don't just retire for free and I am then unable to replace them, not because I don't have money but because every player that would be a like for like replacement requires glory points to buy.

[Andrei Baciu]

I have some advice for you:

1. Transfer the youngest players on your personal list (transfer list). You can invest in first scout when you gain a little glory to be younger.

2. Train those players some specialization levels and a skill to sell them at a higher price. You can update a training coach for better results. (choose between defense or forward and stick to that as the bonuses will be bigger in that group and the cost of glory will rise. In vanilla defender coach is more profitable as you need more defenders on the field, but i used to use a lot of forwards for greater score chances so upgraded only forward coach)

3.As you see i did not mention results. Stick to profit. You will eventually get good players to buy on transfer market and then result will come. Keep the good players until you promote. Sell them afterwards and buy better ones (if you find better). You do not need glory to buy players in vanilla, as you cant buy directly.

4.Look for skills. You need to understand that skills are the key to results. Long pass, cannons and rainbow feints are the best skills in the game but also heading, tacking or layoff pass. If you have an attacker with heading make him a cf. You will score a lot of goals in the lower leagues if you learn how to use this skill. You might need a good AM Or LM/RM to deliver the ball to him. Also when you use cf its essential to have a long passer in the team.

5.Train your goalkeeper. It is one the essential roles in the game. If you have a good one all you need is to score. Use a SW with long pass. It will boost your attack opportunities.

6.Try to spot opponent weaknesses. For example If they don't use a SW and you have a clear line on the wing for cannon, place a lay-off midfielder in that part and the cannon-er on the wing. In vanilla a recall they don't even chance formation.

[magiccarrot24]

Originally posted by Andrei Baciu:

I have some advice for you:

1. Transfer the youngest players on your personal list (transfer list). You can invest in first scout when you gain a little glory to be younger.

2. Train those players some specialization levels and a skill to sell them at a higher price. You can update a training coach for better results. (choose between defense or forward and stick to that as the bonuses will be bigger in that group and the cost of glory will rise. In vanilla defender coach is more profitable as you need more defenders on the field, but i used to use a lot of forwards for greater score chances so upgraded only forward coach)

3.As you see i did not mention results. Stick to profit. You will eventually get good players to buy on transfer market and then result will come. Keep the good players until you promote. Sell them afterwards and buy better ones (if you find better). You do not need glory to buy players in vanilla, as you cant buy directly.






You 100% need glory to buy players in vanilla (maybe you don't need glory on easy mode but you do in normal or hard - and to make it even more impossible upgrades cost more glory in normal and hard than they do on easy mode), even from your own personal transfer list you need glory to buy players that would actually improve your squad - pretty much there'll be about 10 players on your list that don't require glory then the rest all need glory to buy. The players on the transfer list that you can buy and sell in an attempt to profit are usually older and not as good as the players you already have and as stated money isn't the issue it's the glory to actually buy the players that would be better, until you can either get the coaches to train your players or the scouting levels to get better players (all of which require glory) you can't do anything to improve your team.

Sticking to profit and not winning games doesn't help cause the issue isn't money it's glory (almost every player has a glory price and transfer price even on your personal transfer list (even higher if you try to scout from higher leagues), and in order to get better scouted players you need glory) which can only be obtained by winning games. I can't buy players that are better or younger with potential cause everyone that would be better has a glory element as well as transfer fee, the only way to get new players is through the youth acadamey but getting the coaches to make it worth your while all require glory that you can't get.

I'm currently sitting with over 1M in the lowest league in the game and can't buy anyone that would improve the team cause whilst I can afford the transfer fee of lots of players that would improve my team I can't afford the glory.

[Andrei Baciu]

1. I think you don't play vanilla.
2. You confuse personal list with direct buy.

Tells you a player with... I don't know how many hours.
Don't make install the vanilla.

maybe i can assist you more if you want, but you need to pay more attention to what i written regarding player position & skills.

There is a trick to easy glory...i will tell you in the next post.

[Andrei Baciu]

I now assume you play manager journey, but you could play also football stars. doesn't matter anyway...

i never written a guide for this game and i don't have the time and the energy to do it now but i will guide step by step with what you need to do from the day 1 of campaign.

I know now your budget is 1 mil and you can directly buy players with money and glory or use extended transfer list but i will ignore this information for now.

Assuming you are playing hard mode as I can not write other guide (It does not make sense for me):

Year 0

You start your club with money, glory, no upgrades and a bunch of old players. What to do?
Obviously you are gonna lose first matches. The main objective of the season is to accumulate some glory and eventually some money but also with a little bit of luck obtain 1 or two 2 results with the least good team in the league. Preferably in cup matches for more manager xp and glory.

- you don't need to sell old players for nothing. i play them 4,5 matches and sell them on average interest from other clubs but with one condition: to give me glory. Sell condition reset every time you upgrade a level, a specialization level, a skill, or contract duration if in 2 months. I always search for the wright moment. I am now taking about the very old players. 32-33 that are urgent to sell. Others ones will play later for the team and develop some skills. That amount of glory for players that don't value nothing is huge.

What do i do with the glory in the first place?
I search for low talented players like 1 stars or 2 stars that have level 1-3 to buy them directly. You dont always find them. you need luck. They cost around 1000$ and 10 glory. on level 1. If you find them you can sell them in 1 year and a half for 50-100k. Always negotiate youngsters price when you receive offers if he is below 22 years old.

Now that i have some money i upgrade scouts. Why? They are the most profitable.
It allows to buy younger and better players from my personal list with no glory and if i have a manager ability all the prices will discounted allowing me huge profits in no time.

I will keep buying and sell with keeping of course my key positions. Those players i never touch unless i find a better option. These are:

Best 2 strikers/forwards , midfielder with long pass, sweeper w long pass. goalkeeper.
I prefer long pass on goalkeeper too, as his specialization level will reach the roof easy. Every attack will be a potential score chance. If you win a match by 3 goals you win extra glory. If you win by 5 even more.

I always use 3CDs and a sweeper. Protected 75% of cannons and rainbows if defenders are good. Put 2 wing defenders and the opponent will struggle. If he tries to long pass to a forward behind your defense line substitute the sweeper.

The harder the opponent the more glory. You can hide your real team value by putting on the field level 1 players that are not in key positions. I could put 4 undeveloped players in a good team that weakens my strength and also my best players on the bench to get more star difference between teams for more glory on a win. Of course I keep in mind if i start first i let them play and i always bring them on the field immediately as possible. Using this tactic you can even let them score first so that you can put in your best players faster, and not risk all half go away. Sometimes can fail, but when it works the glory is huge. Still don't do it on important matches.

Now we have money and we have glory but we are not topping the table. What next?

We have 2 options:
Best one, search for a 34 years old striker that turns 34 in the transfer period and buy him with glory only. He needs to have 4-5 stars and 140 shooting at least, and not have skills like tackling or rainbow which drain stamina stamina fast.

Second one. Buy from first or second league a 30-32 years old with high shooting attribute but who is not gifted or have skills. Shooting is not depended to giftedness and no skill will mean a low price. A budget of 300-500K is enough for this kind of player. You will loose most of the money as you cant ever make a profit from him but probably you will promote and earn glory.

I hope you now understand how to win at this game. For further questions you may ask.

[magiccarrot24]

Originally posted by Andrei Baciu:

1. I think you don't play vanilla.
2. You confuse personal list with direct buy.

Tells you a player with... I don't know how many hours.
Don't make install the vanilla.

I've had this game since early access before there was any DLC and haven't purchased any DLC, there is no ability to direct buy from team you can only buy from personal list or from the global list that you have to pay for.

On your personal list you get a handful of players that you can buy for no glory, but as you upgrade your scouting report it starts to add players that require glory to buy to your personal list all the none glory players are old and rubbish and anyone with even an ounce of potential to improve will have a glory fee way higher than is possible to accumulate.

You may well have however many hours you have but they aren't on the vanilla game. I can assure you how I am describing the situation is accurate to the experience I am having on normal difficulty.

To show you don't know what you are talking about in the game I am playing you can't upgrade the scouts with money, you upgrade them with glory, the only things that you can upgrade with money is Youth Academy and Stadium. EVERYTHING ELSE REQUIRE GLORY.

The first two season it's easy to win games as your starting line up are mostly old but decent players usually 1 decent but old stiker and a decent but old goalkeeper, most of the time you can easily gain promotion out the amateur league and into in my case third division (this will differ depending on country), and most often I can stay in that league for about 2 seasons before all my decent players have reached 33 and have been sold. At the start of the game my team is usually ranked zero stars and before the necessary selling of everyone decent my team is usually about 2 stars. So the first 2 season you can accumulate glory quite easy but not enough to upgrade anything high enough to replace your outgoing old players with anywhere close to similar quality or potential so you then begin an out of control downward spiral of not being able to win games, if you spend your glory upgrading your scout you then don't have enough glory to buy the players they find that are decent and you can't get it high enough to get decent players that cost no glory, and if you spend your glory on coaches they still aren't high enough to make any difference to the scrap of players you are able to pick up all whom are worse in everyway than the players you lose.

The only reason I have money is I simulated several seasons in the hope of obtaining enough glory to actually be able to do anything, but the 5-10 a year you get at the end of the season it will take centuries of in game time to get sufficent amount of glory to do anything

[magiccarrot24]

Originally posted by Andrei Baciu:

1. I think you don't play vanilla.
2. You confuse personal list with direct buy.

I'll talk you through the upgrade options that you have at the start of the game on normal difficulty and costs of each.

Stadium - current 100 next 500 upgrade Cost £500
Youth Academy level of young player 1-1 next Level of young player 1-5 upgrade cost£14,000
First Scout's assistant current min age 26 next min age 25 Upgrade cost 10 glory
Second Scout's Assistant current Length of list 5 Next length of lis 7 upgrade cost 10 glory
Bench Coach current effect 0% next Experience 20% cost 10 glory
(After this it's all position coaches each current 0% next 20% and cost of 10 glory)

After any upgrade that requires glory all of the costs of other items go up to the point that after 3-4 upgrades unless you are winning regularly then you can rarely upgrade anything as the 5-10 glory you'll get after a losing season won't pay for ♥♥♥♥.

If you upgrade either of the scouting options your personal list will either end up with younger players with the better ones requiring glory to buy and years of developmet before they are any good and because you've spent your glory on scouting then your coaches are the ♥♥♥♥♥ or a long list of older players that aren't any better than the players you have.

Making money in the games a piece of piss buy players play them for 1-2 seasons then sell them for profit, but you have nothing to spend it on,

[Andrei Baciu]

Those upgrades, in vanilla, require minimum amount of glory that can be won by winning matches, through tactics & skills.

And its not a must to upgrade them, as i said before its a matter of time you find some good players.

You don't need that much a youth couch. Its optional.

But yes in vanilla you are limited to the transfer list that's why you have to invest carefully the glory.

I'm sorry, i just didn't understand why you say you need glory to buy players and refer to the "other ones" like a potential buy.

OK, so yes...so you are basically an older player than me since I play from 2018 :)

Things are pretty straight clear, now you need to wait some time for good players to appear on the transfer market or raise some youth which does takes time. You are 100% dependent on those. Requires patience.

This is the design of vanilla. To be honest i miss those limitations of vanilla, as now the game has become too easy for me.

// I think you can use some guides that are on steam. There are many for vanilla.

[magiccarrot24]

Originally posted by Andrei Baciu:

Those upgrades, in vanilla, require minimum amount of glory that can be won by winning matches, through tactics & skills.

I've been playing this constantly for weeks now and I've yet to see any players on the base level transfer market worth signing that don't require glory points to sign, and that's playing several seasons looking every transfer window for players that are if not better have better potential than the ones I have, still not happened, and thats hundreds of seasons over the past few weeks.

As for winning games, that's easy for the first 2 seasons, but there is no way to get players that will be as good or potentially as good as the team you start with in the time it takes for your first teams good players to reach 33. As for minimum amount of glory points, after the first 3-4 levels of upgrades the cost per upgrade there after is huge, but the impact of those upgrades isn't significant enough to make up for the fact that your goalkeeper and star stirker are 33 and there hasn't been anyone even half as good in the 2-3 seasons that you've had them show up on the transfer market.

And the thing is you'd only need two half decent players to show up to make all the difference one decent forward and one decent goalkeeper.

Tactics mean ♥♥♥♥ after the second year and your down to playing forwards with low control and low accuracy and every single player on the transfer market is worse than the ones you have it's awful.

[magiccarrot24]

Originally posted by Andrei Baciu:

Those upgrades, in vanilla, require minimum amount of glory that can be won by winning matches, through tactics & skills.

And its not a must to upgrade them, as i said before its a matter of time you find some good players.

You don't need that much a youth couch. Its optional.

But yes in vanilla you are limited to the transfer list that's why you have to invest carefully the glory.

I'm sorry, i just didn't understand why you say you need glory to buy players and refer to the "other ones" like a potential buy.

OK, so yes...so you are basically an older player than me since I play from 2018 :)

Things are pretty straight clear, now you need to wait some time for good players to appear on the transfer market or raise some youth which does takes time. You are 100% dependent on those. Requires patience.

This is the design of vanilla. To be honest i miss those limitations of vanilla, as now the game has become too easy for me.

// I think you can use some guides that are on steam. There are many for vanilla.

The problems are mainly it is impossible to get a replacement goalkeeper once your starting goalkeeper has gone (usually cause you need to sell him cause he's 33) It is impossible to get a replacement goalkeeper regardless of what means you use. The players on the transfer market are old and useless, I mean not being able to block the shot of even the worst attacker in the amateur league useless and even if you have a good youth academy it would take about 8-10 years to train any goalkeeper to get to the point where they can consistently stop any shots, so you are in a position where once your first goalkeeper is gone you now have a goalkeeper that is going to concede as many shots as your opponents gets per game, so for at least 8 seasons you are going to be conceding at least 3-4 goals a game which means you are going to go at least 8 seasons unable to gain any glory from matches.

And I don't care what you do, I've tried upgrading the coaches first, I've tried upgrading the scouts first I've tried using balanced strategies.

And that's just the problem with getting a goalkeeper that can keep the score low enough to even give you a chance in the game, the same issue happens with your forward, you usually start off with one star forward that is 30+ and as with the goalkeeper getting someone that can even come close to scoring after he retires is near impossible, and again I don't care if you put your glory points into coaches, scouting or adopt a balanced strategy, I've tried everything and after the star forward has been sold at 33 my best remaining striker has a less than 1 in 10 chance of scoring one on one against even the worst goalkeeper in the game, and again left with the same problem of nobody from the transfer list is ever good enough and if you do try to go the youth route you then need to go about 10 seasons just to get someone that can score 1 goal in a game - not really helping when your goalkeeper is conceding 4 goals every game. So if your lucky after 10 season after your star forward/goalkeeper have left you are left with a team that no matter what strategy you employ will be lucky to win 2 games a year.

Making money is irrelevant cause the only things you can spend it on are youth and stadium upgrades (you get some players on your personal list but the only ones worth buying are the ones that come with an additional glory requirement), if you maximize your upgrades into scouting it only takes about 3-4 upgrades before the upgrades cost more glory than you can accumulate and the result of doing so doesn't give you players that are better or even potentially better than the ones you started with and after a few scout upgrades some of the players that show up require glory points to buy- which of course you don't have because you used your glory points to get the scouting level that allows you to find the slightly better players.

So after 3-4 seasons you are left with a team that is worse than the one you started with and every available player to you has less potential than the players you started wtih- and even if you did miraculously find a hidden gem on the transfer market it is all irrelevant unless you can find someone to replace your aging goalkeeper because once that first goalkeeper has been sold or retired you ain't winning squat and if you can't win games you can't get any glory and if you can't get any glory you can't do anything in the game.

As for the guides, all of the guides I have found only work on easy mode, easy mode is a lot more forgiving in giving you younger players to start, and the upgrades cost less so you can win for longer with the beginning squad so accumulatively by being able to win for longer with your starting squad and the upgrades being cheaper you can quite easily set yourself up a good developmental system that allows you to succeed in the game.

But basically normal mode once your goalkeeper and star striker leave the game is killed.

[_K_o_S_]

1) To get a GK, put a green class with the highest defence attribute to the goal. In 1-2 seasons you will have a great GK.

2) Or if you don't have a good G or green class, put D to the goal. You will a good GK even faster.

3) Football match is a team sport. There are many possibilities to keep your goal safe without even touching the ball by a goalkeeper. For example, if you use 5 DFs in one line, it will be hard to make shots through them. Depending on the opponent, you might need a different defence formation. But the main point is - your GK shouldn't be the only one working to stop shots.

4) While you think that the base game is not playable without DLCs, it's not true. The base game in many regards is significantly easier than DLCs. One of the aspects that is easier is growing your footballers because they are not limited by their Giftedness which appeared in the DLCs. So once you find a young zero class (or G or D) with a decent Def attribute, he will be your go-to goalkeeper for many years to come (unlike in DLCs). Btw, you can turn a CD or SW or RD/LD to a goalkeeper. FTG provides a lot of possibilities.

[magiccarrot24]

Originally posted by _K_o_S_:

1) To get a GK, put a green class with the highest defence attribute to the goal. In 1-2 seasons you will have a great GK.

2) Or if you don't have a good G or green class, put D to the goal. You will a good GK even faster.

3) Football match is a team sport. There are many possibilities to keep your goal safe without even touching the ball by a goalkeeper. For example, if you use 5 DFs in one line, it will be hard to make shots through them. Depending on the opponent, you might need a different defence formation. But the main point is - your GK shouldn't be the only one working to stop shots.

4) While you think that the base game is not playable without DLCs, it's not true. The base game in many regards is significantly easier than DLCs. One of the aspects that is easier is growing your footballers because they are not limited by their Giftedness which appeared in the DLCs. So once you find a young zero class (or G or D) with a decent Def attribute, he will be your go-to goalkeeper for many years to come (unlike in DLCs). Btw, you can turn a CD or SW or RD/LD to a goalkeeper. FTG provides a lot of possibilities.

Tried all of that THERE ARE NO YOUNG PLAYERS ON YOUR PERSONAL LIST WITHOUT SPENDING ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GLORY POINTS AND YOU HAVE NO WAY OF GETTING GLORY POINTS WITHOUT WINNING

What defense? The defense is just as crap as your goalkeeper because the rate at which your starting team retires is higher than the rate at which you can replace them and are then left with a garbage defense that couldn't stop an ant stuck on chewing gum. The players on your transfer list are worse and have less potential than the players you have that are due to retire within 3-4 seasons.

It's been green high D youth players I've been putting in goal, cause all the high D green players on my personal list are 1) over 26 2) Not that high in D

All my defenders that are high in D are all about the same age as my goalkeeper that is going to retire so using them doesn't solve the problem

Doesn't matter what you do. You start the game with a team that is solid for the division its in but all the players are due to retire in 2-3 years, all the players that show up on your personal list are all 26+ and useless unless you start putting glory points in to scouting but if you do that then you aren't putting glory points into coaching so nobody develops fast enough for it to matter. You clearly haven't played the vanilla game in a while if at all it takes a hell of a lot longer than 2 years to develop the players available into a goalkeeper capable of stopping anyone, and in the meantime all your good defenders are also retiring without adequate replacements.

So after 3-4 seasons you are left with a team that was worse than the team you started with and no way of developing cause your coaches are ♥♥♥♥ your scouts are ♥♥♥♥ and you are no longer able to win games so you aren't gaining any glory to improve your scouts or coaches.