curved sword

[vanster__]

if you use this garbage ass cheat weapon in pvp, you have a small weiner, work at mcdonalds and don't have a girlfriend for life

[депну почку на dark artistry]

git gud skill issue 🤙

[76561199236527341]

i also tend to dread the upcoming fight when i see that ive invaded a real sweaty looking player with pk, but IMO its really not as overtly toxic or bg as something like murky. its pretty fundamentals heavy and can be pretty rewarding to play on low lat, in a way that comparable setups like murky isnt.

anyone who is doing ds3 pvp regularly, especially meta pontiff, should put some effort into playing curved sword. learning to play with it increases your fundamentals elsewhere and will help you know what to do when coming up against it.

IMO the thing that's far, far more annoying is the ultra passive, ultra safe playstyle that many meta cs players tend to have, but thats not really a curved sword issue, highly passive
playstyles are also annoying with other setups, and IME its almost always enjoyable to fight a decent cs player if they are mirroring my aggression and not sweating their nuts off vs every rando invader.

[Anoyun?]

wtf wrong with curve sword. i've been gone for 6 years curve sword now a ♥♥♥♥ weapon wtf happen.

[Toasty]

Mate, those swords are easy to beat compared to the most bugged and broken weapons in the game (splitleaf and rkss due to their weapons art glitched)... You get caught once, you die, no chance of escaping

[депну почку на dark artistry]

Originally posted by Toasty:

Mate, those swords are easy to beat compared to the most bugged and broken weapons in the game (splitleaf and rkss due to their weapons art glitched)... You get caught once, you die, no chance of escaping

what playing at offmeta does to a mf
zero clue about the game, this is just sad...

[Terrorize Exercise]

Carthus curved sword was the only good curved sword before it got nerfed.

[76561199236527341]

Originally posted by Toasty:

Mate, those swords are easy to beat compared to the most bugged and broken weapons in the game (splitleaf and rkss due to their weapons art glitched)... You get caught once, you die, no chance of escaping

rkss recovery cancel is NOT inescapable. you mostly just need to play the same game of making reads and accordingly rolling out of stun or delaying your roll that you would use when fighting against murky or pkcs. but otherwise yes, rkss is absolutely a top meta choice if youre doing the recovery cancel. top 3 best weapons probably murky, pkcs and rkss.

splitleaf is not really "broken" in the sense that its super OP. using a pivot cancel to do splitleaf infinite is very strong, and can take you down to zero HP from full if youre not able to escape, but on the other hand - its just a chop halberd. its base moveset really isnt that good and its strongly countered by a variety of weapons. its much more difficult to fight against than other halberds because you essentially need to not get hit when your opponent has most of their stamina, but its still more beatable than basic meta weapons like murky/pk, or rkss with recovery cancel. nobody is tryhard dueling with splinf.

it certainly is "broken" in that you can do a super busted and very unintentional infinite combo, its just not "broken" in that it truly competes with the meta. splitleaf infinite is also very difficult to preform, so in general, when you see someone doing it(unless they macro it), they are probably extremely proficient at pvp and would trounce any of us with a huge variety of setups, so that might make the splitleaf infinite setup seem more meta than it really is.

also, you can escape from splitleaf infinite. you need perseverance or quickstep. what you do is as soon as you get hit with an R1, open your menu and swap to a quickstep dagger while being hit. then close the menu and spam weapon art - you'll usually escape after a few hits. since the game allows you to use the menu and swap while being hit, you dont need to fight with a quickstep weapon the whole time - just swap to it during hitstun while they are trying to infinite you. you can make this much easier by putting a row of 5 quickstep daggers at the top of your inventory, then you can use the "page up" function to quickly select a dagger from any other weapon in your inventory.

i think you also might be able to escape from splinf with a stance escape. stance escape is when you escape from a true combo when getting hit from behind while using a weapon with a "stance" weapon art, which basically means any weapon art where you hold down the button, assume a stance, and can move while in the stance - aquamarine dagger WA, "stance" on straight swords/rapiers/greatswords, valorheart WA, "hold" WA on katanas, freide scythe WA, etc etc. essentially, all you do is hold down the input for WA while being hit and spam roll. you can escape lots of combos this way, even R1>R1 combos on slow stuff like UGS. to do a stance escape, you MUST get hit from behind/facing away from your opponent.

[76561199236527341]

Originally posted by Anoyun?:

wtf wrong with curve sword. i've been gone for 6 years curve sword now a ♥♥♥♥ weapon wtf happen.

curved sword has been in the meta since day 1. at launch, carthus curved sword was the best weapon in the game and then got nerfed HARD, which caused players to move away from cs for awhile, but by the time patches had stopped, pkcs was universally regarded as one of the top meta weapons since it is the longest cs with the fast R1/kick flip moveset.

[Anoyun?]

Originally posted by daylight1943alt:

Originally posted by Anoyun?:

wtf wrong with curve sword. i've been gone for 6 years curve sword now a ♥♥♥♥ weapon wtf happen.

curved sword has been in the meta since day 1. at launch, carthus curved sword was the best weapon in the game and then got nerfed HARD, which caused players to move away from cs for awhile, but by the time patches had stopped, pkcs was universally regarded as one of the top meta weapons since it is the longest cs with the fast R1/kick flip moveset.

did they remove the patch that it become OP again? there are far more OP weapon in the game that can 1 shot you with just r1 press.

[депну почку на dark artistry]

Originally posted by Anoyun?:

Originally posted by daylight1943alt:

curved sword has been in the meta since day 1. at launch, carthus curved sword was the best weapon in the game and then got nerfed HARD, which caused players to move away from cs for awhile, but by the time patches had stopped, pkcs was universally regarded as one of the top meta weapons since it is the longest cs with the fast R1/kick flip moveset.

did they remove the patch that it become OP again? there are far more OP weapon in the game that can 1 shot you with just r1 press.

there are no weapons that can oneshot you with any attack unless your build is really bad, and all attacks that do huge amounts of damage are slow and easy to space/punish/dodge, maybe except blackflame. but it's very far from oneshotting

[Toasty]

Originally posted by daylight1943alt:

Originally posted by Toasty:

Mate, those swords are easy to beat compared to the most bugged and broken weapons in the game (splitleaf and rkss due to their weapons art glitched)... You get caught once, you die, no chance of escaping

rkss recovery cancel is NOT inescapable. you mostly just need to play the same game of making reads and accordingly rolling out of stun or delaying your roll that you would use when fighting against murky or pkcs. but otherwise yes, rkss is absolutely a top meta choice if youre doing the recovery cancel. top 3 best weapons probably murky, pkcs and rkss.

splitleaf is not really "broken" in the sense that its super OP. using a pivot cancel to do splitleaf infinite is very strong, and can take you down to zero HP from full if youre not able to escape, but on the other hand - its just a chop halberd. its base moveset really isnt that good and its strongly countered by a variety of weapons. its much more difficult to fight against than other halberds because you essentially need to not get hit when your opponent has most of their stamina, but its still more beatable than basic meta weapons like murky/pk, or rkss with recovery cancel. nobody is tryhard dueling with splinf.

it certainly is "broken" in that you can do a super busted and very unintentional infinite combo, its just not "broken" in that it truly competes with the meta. splitleaf infinite is also very difficult to preform, so in general, when you see someone doing it(unless they macro it), they are probably extremely proficient at pvp and would trounce any of us with a huge variety of setups, so that might make the splitleaf infinite setup seem more meta than it really is.

also, you can escape from splitleaf infinite. you need perseverance or quickstep. what you do is as soon as you get hit with an R1, open your menu and swap to a quickstep dagger while being hit. then close the menu and spam weapon art - you'll usually escape after a few hits. since the game allows you to use the menu and swap while being hit, you dont need to fight with a quickstep weapon the whole time - just swap to it during hitstun while they are trying to infinite you. you can make this much easier by putting a row of 5 quickstep daggers at the top of your inventory, then you can use the "page up" function to quickly select a dagger from any other weapon in your inventory.

i think you also might be able to escape from splinf with a stance escape. stance escape is when you escape from a true combo when getting hit from behind while using a weapon with a "stance" weapon art, which basically means any weapon art where you hold down the button, assume a stance, and can move while in the stance - aquamarine dagger WA, "stance" on straight swords/rapiers/greatswords, valorheart WA, "hold" WA on katanas, freide scythe WA, etc etc. essentially, all you do is hold down the input for WA while being hit and spam roll. you can escape lots of combos this way, even R1>R1 combos on slow stuff like UGS. to do a stance escape, you MUST get hit from behind/facing away from your opponent.

Good to know, i should test It, thanks. Regarding those glitches well, i have no regrets to say that those kind of people should be banned from pvp online games since i don't consider them much better than cheaters... I'd rather stop playing videogames than abusing those kind of things

[депну почку на dark artistry]

Originally posted by Toasty:

Originally posted by daylight1943alt:

rkss recovery cancel is NOT inescapable. you mostly just need to play the same game of making reads and accordingly rolling out of stun or delaying your roll that you would use when fighting against murky or pkcs. but otherwise yes, rkss is absolutely a top meta choice if youre doing the recovery cancel. top 3 best weapons probably murky, pkcs and rkss.

splitleaf is not really "broken" in the sense that its super OP. using a pivot cancel to do splitleaf infinite is very strong, and can take you down to zero HP from full if youre not able to escape, but on the other hand - its just a chop halberd. its base moveset really isnt that good and its strongly countered by a variety of weapons. its much more difficult to fight against than other halberds because you essentially need to not get hit when your opponent has most of their stamina, but its still more beatable than basic meta weapons like murky/pk, or rkss with recovery cancel. nobody is tryhard dueling with splinf.

it certainly is "broken" in that you can do a super busted and very unintentional infinite combo, its just not "broken" in that it truly competes with the meta. splitleaf infinite is also very difficult to preform, so in general, when you see someone doing it(unless they macro it), they are probably extremely proficient at pvp and would trounce any of us with a huge variety of setups, so that might make the splitleaf infinite setup seem more meta than it really is.

also, you can escape from splitleaf infinite. you need perseverance or quickstep. what you do is as soon as you get hit with an R1, open your menu and swap to a quickstep dagger while being hit. then close the menu and spam weapon art - you'll usually escape after a few hits. since the game allows you to use the menu and swap while being hit, you dont need to fight with a quickstep weapon the whole time - just swap to it during hitstun while they are trying to infinite you. you can make this much easier by putting a row of 5 quickstep daggers at the top of your inventory, then you can use the "page up" function to quickly select a dagger from any other weapon in your inventory.

i think you also might be able to escape from splinf with a stance escape. stance escape is when you escape from a true combo when getting hit from behind while using a weapon with a "stance" weapon art, which basically means any weapon art where you hold down the button, assume a stance, and can move while in the stance - aquamarine dagger WA, "stance" on straight swords/rapiers/greatswords, valorheart WA, "hold" WA on katanas, freide scythe WA, etc etc. essentially, all you do is hold down the input for WA while being hit and spam roll. you can escape lots of combos this way, even R1>R1 combos on slow stuff like UGS. to do a stance escape, you MUST get hit from behind/facing away from your opponent.

Good to know, i should test It, thanks. Regarding those glitches well, i have no regrets to say that those kind of people should be banned from pvp online games since i don't consider them much better than cheaters... I'd rather stop playing videogames than abusing those kind of things

these glitches are still weaker than daggers and light css

[Toasty]

Originally posted by щва... щвабодняя касса!:

Originally posted by Toasty:

Good to know, i should test It, thanks. Regarding those glitches well, i have no regrets to say that those kind of people should be banned from pvp online games since i don't consider them much better than cheaters... I'd rather stop playing videogames than abusing those kind of things

these glitches are still weaker than daggers and light css

Perhaps, but at least those weapons can be punished with a timed right parry, not to mention that you can use them as well since those things are INTENDED to be used in the game, while glitches are literally exploits that AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE (not to mention that this can't be even called skill since the glitches are winning the matches for you)

[депну почку на dark artistry]

Originally posted by Toasty:

Originally posted by щва... щвабодняя касса!:

these glitches are still weaker than daggers and light css

Perhaps, but at least those weapons can be punished with a timed right parry, not to mention that you can use them as well since those things are INTENDED to be used in the game, while glitches are literally exploits that AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE (not to mention that this can't be even called skill since the glitches are winning the matches for you)

what playing offmeta pvp does to a mf. daggers and curved swords are infinitely harder to punish than rkss cancel or splinfinite, parrying is definitely not something you wish to do against even remotely skilled players.
developers have a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up sense of in game balance, not a single glitch in ds3 is as good as harpe with penta regen or just pkcs. you cant say that something is bad because it wasnt intended since fromsoft are brain damaged in terms of balance

[Smoke]

"rkss and splitleaf better than curved swords"
"rkss top 3 weapon"
"ccs only good cs"

people not knowing how the game works in 2025 is kinda crazy
also rkss with cancel can be parried too, you trying to parry out of hitstun against it isn't too different compared to stagger r1s which is never gonna work