Platinum

[AarkNoa]

Okay, I've put myself through the ringer for multiple platinums already, but Dark Souls really has a unique knack for making these 100% extremely tedious and or downright painful to achieve.

So, why? I just don't get it.

A good friend of mine, who does not suffer from this completionist curse would always ask me, why I even care, it's not like I gain anything from this and yeah, he's propably right, but still.

And then I saw the requirements for Dark Souls 3 and I think I finally understand, because I don't feel the urge to sink in the hours to farm over a hundred covenant items, because FromSoft thought it'd be a good idea to lock those achievements behind PVP and or pointless farming.

Any thoughts? It would be a welcome distraction.

[VonRaven 666]

They knew their crowd. The made it for us who never wants Dark Souls to end :) Also It will force alot of people into pvp, and keep the game alive. Personally I think it will open many people eyes to the fun of pvp, so thats a few reasons, i could probably mention more Dont give up skeleton!

[AarkNoa]

Yeah, I don't know. Not giving up seems to be the root of the problem here.

I've spent a few hundred hours on DSR and another few hundred on DS2 and like 60 hours on DS3 and the only boss I have left to beat is the final boss, I think.

I've been invaded lots of times and I've been killed lots of times and I won sometimes. I love jolly cooperation and I've tried Farrons Watchdogs and Darkmoon and the Spear covenant from the ringed city, but PVP just isn't my thing.

[ZTL-Altima]

Your rationale is wrong. Complete achievements should be for people who love the game and will play it a lot and engage in all its features. If you want to skip some things the game has to offer, it is logical for you to not receive full achievements.

Game is PvE/PvP hybrid, so it's expected it to have PvP achievements. All of them are easy to get even for average players, except the blue one, which will take a few hours of farming for non dedicated PvP people or players arriving late to the game, where summoning is even more rare. Possibility to farm all covenants is a convenience for non PvP people, and to assure the game can be completed if servers go down in the future, but it's obvious it should not be too easy or too fast, there must be incentive for people to engage in PvP.

[AarkNoa]

Originally posted by ZTL-Altima:

Your rationale is wrong. Complete achievements should be for people who love the game and will play it a lot and engage in all its features. If you want to skip some things the game has to offer, it is logical for you to not receive full achievements.

Game is PvE/PvP hybrid, so it's expected it to have PvP achievements. All of them are easy to get even for average players, except the blue one, which will take a few hours of farming for non dedicated PvP people or players arriving late to the game, where summoning is even more rare. Possibility to farm all covenants is a convenience for non PvP people, and to assure the game can be completed if servers go down in the future, but it's obvious it should not be too easy or too fast, there must be incentive for people to engage in PvP.

Yeah, you see, I just disagree.

If a game has good mechanics and Dark Souls 3 certainly does, then why does it need incentives to draw people into playing PVP? A game this good should not need to rely on that. Period.

[Kobeth]

Originally posted by AarkNoa:

Originally posted by ZTL-Altima:

Your rationale is wrong. Complete achievements should be for people who love the game and will play it a lot and engage in all its features. If you want to skip some things the game has to offer, it is logical for you to not receive full achievements.

Game is PvE/PvP hybrid, so it's expected it to have PvP achievements. All of them are easy to get even for average players, except the blue one, which will take a few hours of farming for non dedicated PvP people or players arriving late to the game, where summoning is even more rare. Possibility to farm all covenants is a convenience for non PvP people, and to assure the game can be completed if servers go down in the future, but it's obvious it should not be too easy or too fast, there must be incentive for people to engage in PvP.

Yeah, you see, I just disagree.

If a game has good mechanics and Dark Souls 3 certainly does, then why does it need incentives to draw people into playing PVP? A game this good should not need to rely on that. Period.

As you said for yourself, for some people, PVP just isn't their thing, regardless of the quality of the PVP content. Achievements are not an incentive to play PVP, they are a reward for those that engage with it, but it's not even mandatory, covenant items are entirely farmable in PVE, it's just more tedious. But that being said, DS1 platinum is a lot more tedious to get, DS3 is really easy in comparison.

[Catarii]

Some covenants can be farmed fast with the help of other players (3 of them, I can write you more if interested). You need to post here a request and eventually somebody will come help.
The rest, well, it's a Platinum, you gotta work for it. You need at least 3 NGs to get gestures, rings and endings. Each NG will offer you 2 of each covenant items, you just need to find them and loot them. When you are done with the rest, respec your character and get a way to easily kill mobs (some spell or pyro), and ofc high luck. The rest of farming can be done pve in a few hours or days. Depends on your luck, mostly. You can help other ppl while farming for your stuff, watch a movie, listen to some audiobook to make the time pass "faster".

I farmed all that I needed in pve. Except for shackles, somebody helped me with those.

[AarkNoa]

So, I could not resist the masochistic urge and started pointlessly farming, does anyone have a recommendation on a boss to get summoned for? I'm at soul level 130.

I've put my sign down infront of Friede so far and even got summoned twice, so any idea is appreciated.

[Catarii]

You might try Demon Prince, Gael or Midir. Not sure about others but I usually max my characters at 110-120 in NG. Some go for 125, but you should match regardless (with players above sl 109, w +10, I think).

Check the bonfires for embers, see where there is activity and try to leave a summon sign at bonfire or boss fog (depending on the boss).

You may also be summoned for lower bosses but NG+ and above.

[AarkNoa]

Originally posted by Catarii:

You might try Demon Prince, Gael or Midir. Not sure about others but I usually max my characters at 110-120 in NG. Some go for 125, but you should match regardless (with players above sl 109, w +10, I think).

Check the bonfires for embers, see where there is activity and try to leave a summon sign at bonfire or boss fog (depending on the boss).

You may also be summoned for lower bosses but NG+ and above.

Yeah, I would've done the same, but look at stupid old me thinking it would be a great idea to put some more levels into luck before getting the sunmedals.

Thanks, I was summoned to help with Gael a few times yesterday evening, or whatever time it was for you when I posted that question.

[Catarii]

Need some help with those? My laptop died, but i can make a new character on my old PC and help you farm some covenants (after lunch).
Make sure you have the red soapstone.

[Catarii]

Btw, if you are from DE then there is only one hour difference between us.

[AarkNoa]

It's okay, I only need Sunmedals and the darkmoon stuff, I found a really nice guy in the catacombs while farming shackles and we both got 30 in 2 hours

[Catarii]

Medals can be farmed in the same way, so give a sign if you need help.

[AarkNoa]

Thanks, I'll give a holler if I run into a brickwall

[Catarii]

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