No Death Run

[manbearp1g]

Hi, im trying a nodeathrun in ds3.
Any tips on what build to use.
My best run was a Pyrobuild upto Sulyvahn.
Was getting smoked by him as a pyro without summons.

[Myr]

Not sure if you have been using Tears of Denial already but if not that miracle might help save your run at some point, you can keep it active after swapping the attunement out at the bonfire so it can be used with pretty much any build for a free hit.

[Meow]

Winblades (sellsword twinblades) sharp infused, level tons of HP, regen builds are good, defensive and offensive rings. Pyro is bad for no death cuz it needs lots of stat investment.

[Terratrox]

Originally posted by Meow the Sunbro:

Winblades (sellsword twinblades) sharp infused, level tons of HP, regen builds are good, defensive and offensive rings. Pyro is bad for no death cuz it needs lots of stat investment.

? Lies. Pyromancy needs THE LEAST stat investment of all magic. Still needs more than a dex or strength build. But it's the most efficient of the hybrids.

But yeah you want regeneration, for both HP and FP. So Blessed and Simple infusions.

[Meow]

Originally posted by Terratrox:

Originally posted by Meow the Sunbro:

Winblades (sellsword twinblades) sharp infused, level tons of HP, regen builds are good, defensive and offensive rings. Pyro is bad for no death cuz it needs lots of stat investment.

? Lies. Pyromancy needs THE LEAST stat investment of all magic. Still needs more than a dex or strength build. But it's the most efficient of the hybrids.

But yeah you want regeneration, for both HP and FP. So Blessed and Simple infusions.

I am comparing it to winblades, there is no reason to not go winblades.

[manbearp1g]

Yes i see. All the speedrunners use twinblades but if u ♥♥♥♥ up once its bb nodeathrun.
i need a little margin for errors.
Pyromancer was very nice for the first half of the game but sullyvahn as i said and the two princes are rly tough as a caster/hybrid.
i may try a pure STR build or mb STR/Faith.
Thx for the responses

[manbearp1g]

Originally posted by Myr:

Not sure if you have been using Tears of Denial already but if not that miracle might help save your run at some point, you can keep it active after swapping the attunement out at the bonfire so it can be used with pretty much any build for a free hit.

*Unlike its counterpart in Dark Souls II, this miracle lasts indefinitely.
Didnt know that.And its just 15 Faith.
Thx for the tip!

[Meow]

Originally posted by manbearp1g:

Yes i see. All the speedrunners use twinblades but if u ♥♥♥♥ up once its bb nodeathrun.
i need a little margin for errors.
Pyromancer was very nice for the first half of the game but sullyvahn as i said and the two princes are rly tough as a caster/hybrid.
i may try a pure STR build or mb STR/Faith.
Thx for the responses

Brother, you have insane margin for error if you level health. What are you talking about? "All the speedrunners use twinblades but if u ♥♥♥♥ up once its bb nodeathrun." This is the case, if you do not level health at all. I am confused, what are you actually talking about? Have you actually never had a character at 44 vigor + life ring?

[Meow]

Do me a favour, level 44 vigor, put on a life ring + prisoners chain and just go and facetank enemies in the ringed city and see how fast you die. There is a reason why the winblades is the GO TO weapon for every single challenge run, whether that is speedrun, no hit run, or whatever. They are simply, the most efficient weapon to use. Giga fast, insane dmg, and you can buff them. It is the best.

[manbearp1g]

In Speedruns and Nohitruns they dont level Vigor ,they put everything in Dex and Endurance.
And they use RTSR. Thats why the damage is insane.
But i get it, they still might be the best option for a No death as well.

My challenge is:
1: Dont Die
2: No Farming
3: No Summons
4: No Winblades

[Deruvia]

As a pyro, maybe the Demon's Fist will work for you. Just went through most of the game with it, and Sully didn't get many chances to breathe. Maybe I was just super on my game that day, but it's never gone smoother for me. Not an expert; no promises.

[Meow]

Originally posted by manbearp1g:

In Speedruns and Nohitruns they dont level Vigor ,they put everything in Dex and Endurance.
And they use RTSR. Thats why the damage is insane.
But i get it, they still might be the best option for a No death as well.

My challenge is:
1: Dont Die
2: No Farming
3: No Summons
4: No Winblades

Idk what to tell you, yes they don't lvl vigor in no hit runs, but you can??? Meaning you will have the insane dmg and HP???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? And rtsr is NOT a requirement at all. DS3 RTSR is nothing like DS1 RTSR which you obviously don't know. The difference between RTSR and lloyds sword is a few L1s, if that even. Do whatever you want and good luck, this is actually blowing my mind. I will never be the same. I can not believe I am trying to explain to someone in 2024 why they should use winblades in a DS3 challenge run, and failing. Unbelievable.