Is it just my build or do ranged builds suck in DS3?

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Tried a sorcery build and wow this is garbage compared to DS1. Bosses that never gave me trouble like Crystal Sage and Deacons of the Deep spanked me, they are pretty much DPS tests like Four Kings from DS1 and they are resistant to the main thing I made my build for: spells.

I also find bosses like Pointiff Sulyvahn impossible to kill with ranged attacks, he is far too aggressive and doesn't let you get almost any attacks off. It feels like Gwyn from DS1 but even worse, like the fight is designed to teach you that you have to parry or go f* yourself.

I know kiting and spamming magic and bows isn't the most fun playstyle but it annoys me that this game basically forces you into melee and forces you to level up stamina or you make the game ten times harder for yourself. At least Sekiro had the balls to take away those options entirely. If you try to do ranged attacks only Dark Souls 3 is by far the hardest Soulsbornekiro game.

For reference I'm using a Heretic Staff with standard spells like Soul Arrow and Great Heavy Soul Arrow. I find all the other spells like Farron Darts and Pestilent Mist to be quite underwhelming.

[Satan]

You problaby need some melee optionsm there are many spells that do this job, never saw a pure ranged in this game without using glitches/bugs

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Originally posted by ⛧Satan⛧:

You problaby need some melee optionsm there are many spells that do this job, never saw a pure ranged in this game without using glitches/bugs

That sucks, I wanted to do pure ranged. You can't even infuse bows in this game. Doing a bow and magic playthrough of this game has soured my opinion of it. Too many gimmick bosses, uninspired world design, forces you to play melee. This is easily the worst Soulsbornekiro game, the amazing DLC doesn't even save it because the main game is a slog to play through. Here's my tier list:

S: Sekiro, DS1
A: Bloodborne, Demon's Souls
B: DS2
C: DS3

[G (For)]

Originally posted by Vomit:

Originally posted by ⛧Satan⛧:

You problaby need some melee optionsm there are many spells that do this job, never saw a pure ranged in this game without using glitches/bugs

That sucks, I wanted to do pure ranged. You can't even infuse bows in this game. Doing a bow and magic playthrough of this game has soured my opinion of it. Too many gimmick bosses, uninspired world design, forces you to play melee. This is easily the worst Soulsbornekiro game, the amazing DLC doesn't even save it because the main game is a slog to play through. Here's my tier list:

S: Sekiro, DS1
A: Bloodborne, Demon's Souls
B: DS2
C: DS3

who asked

[[AJSA]MeloDeath]

no they suck but for the right bosses like nameless king who is not super aggresive its OP

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Originally posted by AJSAMeloDeath:

no they suck but for the right bosses like nameless king who is not super aggresive its OP

That's funny because he gave me the most trouble playing melee. What trash game design. Railroads you into playing one way and then ♥♥♥♥♥ you in the late game for playing that way. It's clear Myazaki doesn't want to do sequels because this is an uninspired slog to play though. Lothric, swamps, cathedral, irithyll. It's all an annoying and boring. Literally the only reason to play DS3 is the DLC which is actually great.

Easily the worst DS game and I'd like to hear someone defend the design of any of these levels.

I don't care if you didn't ask for the criticism, go back to your safe space for all I care. Someone tell me what you actually enjoy about playing this game please.

[CarSwell666]

So don't play the game then. Sorcery is viable although I would argue it's the least worthwhile build. Pyromancy is still dope. You can get the MLGS pretty early if you know what you're doing. All DS games have pretty much required you to have a melee weapon no matter what you're style is. The game is 5 years old at this point. Are people still whining about how it works?

[causality]

If you have played King's Field, kind of the progenitor to the Souls series, then you would know Fromsoft REALLY hate magic type builds.

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Originally posted by CarSwell666:

So don't play the game then. Sorcery is viable although I would argue it's the least worthwhile build. Pyromancy is still dope. You can get the MLGS pretty early if you know what you're doing. All DS games have pretty much required you to have a melee weapon no matter what you're style is. The game is 5 years old at this point. Are people still whining about how it works?

DS1 lets you beat every boss besides Seath with sorcery. Demon Souls magic is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ OP and can literally beat every boss in one hit (that's too OP, I aint' defending that). DS2 magic is a viable way to beat every single boss in the game besides Fume Knight which is DLC.

DS3 is the only game where multiple bosses in the early game will let you know magic is not viable. I started a DS3 playthrough using only sorceries and the game became ten times harder. Like I said, at least Sekiro had the balls to tell you that you can't play this way by taking the option away entirely. In DS3 I started with pure sorceries and found out I ruined my entire playthrough.

And don't worry, I won't be playing this trash game again. DS1 and DS2 are infinitely better than this pile of trash.

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Originally posted by insurgent leader:

If you have played King's Field, kind of the progenitor to the Souls series, then you would know Fromsoft REALLY hate magic type builds.

Well they did a terrible job of balancing Demon's Souls then because every single boss can be beat in one hit with Firestorm lmao.

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Originally posted by lShadow:

Originally posted by Vomit:

like the fight is designed to teach you that you have to parry or go f* yourself.

git gud: dodge behind and attack when there is an opportunity

Go on then, try dodge Pontiff's attacks and beat him with ranged attacks that have extremely slow startup animations. Show me scrub. Record your gameplay.

No hit runners can probably do it but they literally dedicate their life to beating the game.

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Originally posted by lShadow:

Originally posted by G (For Gee Wiz):

who asked

This is what they do when they can't time their dodges...

Don't level stamina at all and record yourself beating pontiff if you're so confident.

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Originally posted by lShadow:

Originally posted by Vomit:

Go on then, try dodge Pointiff's attacks and beat him with ranged attacks that have extremely slow startup animations. Show me scrub. Record your gameplay.

No hit runners can probably do it but they literally dedicate their life to beating the game.

Scrub? lmao I'm not the one quitting the game after not being able to cheese the game with ranged :zaglol:

Btw, use sage ring, noob. Also the composite bow's rolling attack is extremely fast.

The cheese is parrying. I can do that, it's not difficult. Go on and try cheese him with sorceries or ranged if it's so easy. Record the gameplay please.

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Originally posted by lShadow:

Originally posted by Vomit:

Don't level stamina at all and record yourself beating pontiff if you're so confident.

That's not even a challenge lmao, I've finished the game without rolling/running/quickstep/blocking etc.

And 10 endurance is enough to attack with an ultragreatsword and roll multiple times, you just need to learn how to manage your stammina.

Proof?

[Vomit]

You're full of ♥♥♥♥ and I guarantee you no hit runners and speed runners just parry him because it's an obvious cheese.

[Vomit]

lmao link now or it doesn't exist