Is the blue sentinel mod still "necessary"?

[Cadillac]

Is the blue sentinel mod still "necessary" whit the new update online? I remember that it helped me a lot at the time against cheaters

[ChainedScythe]

No but obvious cheaters flagged by the mod can be kicked.

[Artek [General]]

Its still very useful for sure. Better be safe than sorry.

[Sprinkles]

It's actually quite a bit worse than it used to be at detecting cheaters and glitchers. It's lost lots of functionality in that regard. But the onscreen display it provides, the list of players (and their steam name), their soul level/weapon level, and ping time is quite useful so I think it's worth it. If you pvp, just backup your saves often and block the worst offenders. That's the best safety net.

[❤Jeanne❤]

It's completely utterly useless I'm a big fan of the actual anti cheat in BS but my god this version is literally useless even worse actually it somehow manages to desync you to your host as a phantom if you've been in their world for a while not even gonna mention all the cheats that don't get detected and won't get protected

[Sprinkles]

Originally posted by Mordred! >.<:

It's completely utterly useless I'm a big fan of the actual anti cheat in BS but my god this version is literally useless even worse actually it somehow manages to desync you to your host as a phantom if you've been in their world for a while not even gonna mention all the cheats that don't get detected and won't get protected

hmm... come to think of it, I have been experiencing strange behavior with arena matches. Well one map in particular: the Grand Roof. Sometimes if I lose a battle, it just sits there. I'm stuck looking at a greyed out screen, my body already gone, while the opponent has to either wait for the arena match timeout or kill himself.

I thought it was related to the most recent patch that Fromsoft implemented as that's when I noticed it started happening but now I'm wondering if it's just Blue Sentinel related (as I hadn't done many arena matches until recently so it may have just gone unnoticed). Does this happen to anyone else? I suppose I can just disable BS for a while next time I jump on DS3.

[ChainedScythe]

Originally posted by Sprinkles:

Originally posted by Mordred! >.<:

It's completely utterly useless I'm a big fan of the actual anti cheat in BS but my god this version is literally useless even worse actually it somehow manages to desync you to your host as a phantom if you've been in their world for a while not even gonna mention all the cheats that don't get detected and won't get protected

hmm... come to think of it, I have been experiencing strange behavior with arena matches. Well one map in particular: the Grand Roof. Sometimes if I lose a battle, it just sits there. I'm stuck looking at a greyed out screen, my body already gone, while the opponent has to either wait for the arena match timeout or kill himself.

I thought it was related to the most recent patch that Fromsoft implemented as that's when I noticed it started happening but now I'm wondering if it's just Blue Sentinel related (as I hadn't done many arena matches until recently so it may have just gone unnoticed). Does this happen to anyone else? I suppose I can just disable BS for a while next time I jump on DS3.

It is probably the patch, it seems to have introduced more than just stutters.

[Sprinkles]

Originally posted by ChainedScythe:

It is probably the patch, it seems to have introduced more than just stutters.

So I just loaded up, did some arena fights, same crap happened when I died on a Grand Roof match.

So I went ahead and unloaded BS wouldn't you know it, no more getting stuck on Grand Roof upon match loss. Well, I suppose I shouldn't say that's 100% confirmed until I've gathered a bigger sample size (only a few matches) but it was pretty dang consistent that it would happen before with BS enabled (like it was pretty rare for it to *not* happen).

Sigh... yet another reason to dislike the new Blue Sentinel mod. Can anyone recommend a mod that does a similar on-screen display of players, their soul level and ping like BS provided? I'm going to miss that.

[TrueEvil]

Originally posted by Sprinkles:

Originally posted by ChainedScythe:

It is probably the patch, it seems to have introduced more than just stutters.

So I just loaded up, did some arena fights, same crap happened when I died on a Grand Roof match.

So I went ahead and unloaded BS wouldn't you know it, no more getting stuck on Grand Roof upon match loss. Well, I suppose I shouldn't say that's 100% confirmed until I've gathered a bigger sample size (only a few matches) but it was pretty dang consistent that it would happen before with BS enabled (like it was pretty rare for it to *not* happen).

Sigh... yet another reason to dislike the new Blue Sentinel mod. Can anyone recommend a mod that does a similar on-screen display of players, their soul level and ping like BS provided? I'm going to miss that.

You can see ping and Steam names with DS3ConnectionInfo[github.com]. It's what I was using before BS got updated. It has a few other features too. I still use it from time to time to cancel connections, for example if Tam's playing and I don't feel like dealing with his nonsense.

[Sprinkles]

Originally posted by TrueEvil:

You can see ping and Steam names with DS3ConnectionInfo[github.com]. It's what I was using before BS got updated. It has a few other features too. I still use it from time to time to cancel connections, for example if Tam's playing and I don't feel like dealing with his nonsense.

That works. I forgot about that app tbh, mainly because I never used it because its on-screen overlay conflicts with reshade at the time I experimented with it. It still does, but at least I can see all that info on my second screen now. Even better it shows their location. This is a good compromise. Thanks meng.

Also, side note in which I forgot to mention earlier, with Blue Sentinel, it also prevented Spear of Church fights from concluding when assisting as a phantom (had to kill myself). I haven't been able to test this yet, however Arena Grand Roof fights appear to be solid now. No more Blue Sentinel for me. What a shame.

[Lady Iudex]

It was never "necessary". Despite it's long history of problems and abusers, the cult would just foam at the mouth anytime someone said it wasn't the greatest thing in the world.

[Qethzunsahrot]

no longer necessary, but reading player Ping is a useful tool, and kicking glitchers/cheaters as a host can be worthwhile if you don't feel like putting the effort to beat someone cheating.