tips for soul of cinder?

[big pisser]

I really feel like i shouldn't be struggling this much.. this is my first play through and ive defeated every boss in the game sub 3 times but for whatever reason my brain seems to engage stupid mode whenever i try to fight cinder

My build is (mostly) strength based, and i think im struggling to land hits in between his crazy combos
Any help would be appreciated!

[Majrick]

if you want to fight now I will help

[Deruvia]

I'm no expert, but I just stayed the heck away from them when curved sword was out, It even felt like I should only go in when Mage mode is out, but the polearm isn't too bad. As for phase 2, I don't remember it well.

[Majrick]

Originally posted by Majrick:

if you want to fight now I will help

I guess that's a No so good luck Kiwi

[Tikus Tycoon]

Watch "no hit" boss fights on youtube and see how those experts avoid attacks and when to land attacks

[quacksouls]

Soul of Cinder is the most difficult boss in the base game in terms of the huge variety of his move set. You need to practice this fight and familiarize yourself with the boss' attack patterns. Equip some or a combination of these rings so you can wear armour pieces having high defense while maintaining your weight ratio below 70%: Havel's Ring, Prisoner's Chain, and Ring of Favor. Wearing an armour set having high defense and casting Tears of Denial, you should be able to tank at least two hits and stay alive long enough to learn the boss' attack patterns. Use a fast weapon such as a straight sword.

In phase one, the boss can transition between any of these fighting styles: straight sword, curved sword plus pyromancer, sorcerer, and spear. In any of the melee styles, the boss has a chain of at most three attacks. Expect any attack to be a three-hit combo. A safe window to get in a hit is when he does a delayed overhead attack with his straight sword. Run or strafe behind him and get in one hit. The spear style can be tricky due to the reach of the boss' spear and the delayed horizontal double spin. You only have to roll once to get out of the range of the delayed double spin. Wait for the boss to be close to you and roll into his left arm. This might sound complicated, but with practice you can easily roll through the delayed double spin. The curved sword plus pyromancer style is the most dangerous during phase one. Try to be far away from the boss whenever he attacks with his curved sword and be prepared to dodge fire balls. A safe window to attack is when he starts to cast Power Within. You have a second to run to him and get in one hit. The sorcerer style can be the easiest to punish. Constantly strafe to your right to avoid the Homing Soulmass and roll diagonally through the Farron Darts. The Soul Greatsword should be rolled through diagonally to your right to position your character by or behind the boss' left arm. The safest window to attack is when the boss charges up his Soul Stream. Strafe or run behind him and get in two or three hits.

Phase two can be the easiest of both phases of the fight. The boss now fights with a great sword and casts lightning miracles. You have at least four windows to safely get in a hit. The first window is when the boss throws a lightning spear. Roll towards the boss and get in one hit. The second window is when he impales the ground with a lightning stake. Again, roll towards the boss and get in a hit. The third window is when he charges the rain of lightning. Close the distance as quickly as possible and get in two or three hits, then move away and be ready to perform three rolls to dodge the rain of lightning. Finally, the fourth window is when he two-hands his great sword, performs a combo with insane range, and finish with an area-of-effect explosion. As soon as he starts to charge his combo, run outside the range of his attacks and throw two or three (Black) Firebombs, or Lightning Urns, at the boss to chip down his HP.

This video uses the above strategies:
https://youtu.be/tLGBTgm7Oq0

[big pisser]

Thanks for the help guys! I managed to defeat him on my second try this morning c:

[Terratrox]

Originally posted by yesserski:

Thanks for the help guys! I managed to defeat him on my second try this morning c:

Well done!

[Lorelius hogglefart]

yeah it was strange took me like 15 tries after almost beating him first try lol it was that insta kill combo hed do also kinda comes down to rng how much he uses that curved blade n the pokes

[Terratrox]

Originally posted by XSINITY:

yeah it was strange took me like 15 tries after almost beating him first try lol it was that insta kill combo hed do also kinda comes down to rng how much he uses that curved blade n the pokes

Funny thing is, the Curved Sword form is his WEAKEST, because he uses Power Within. You can just run away from him the entire time he has that buff and he'll kill himself.

[big pisser]

Originally posted by XSINITY:

yeah it was strange took me like 15 tries after almost beating him first try lol it was that insta kill combo hed do also kinda comes down to rng how much he uses that curved blade n the pokes

Lol yeah the same thing happened to me, I got super close on my first try but the next 10 attempts were miserable

[ChainedScythe]

Originally posted by bellpepper:

Originally posted by XSINITY:

yeah it was strange took me like 15 tries after almost beating him first try lol it was that insta kill combo hed do also kinda comes down to rng how much he uses that curved blade n the pokes

Lol yeah the same thing happened to me, I got super close on my first try but the next 10 attempts were miserable

that was me with gael