Is it possible to have a good dex/faith build?

[Purge]

I really want to be a sun bro, but my build is primarly a kantana wielding dex build. Is it worth getting the 30 faith needed to be a sun bro?

[60mph gorilla]

You don't need 30 faith to be a sunbro

[Kif]

any build can be good, but I would say it should be just fine

[Purge]

I want to use the lightning spear attack and I read that it says you need to have 30 faith right?

[Purge]

Also I recieved an item for the covenant. I was under the impression you have to talk to someone. How does it all work?

[Mio Rin]

1. Infuse the katana to scale off faith.

2. Engage in Jolly Cooperation!

3. Praise the Sun! \[T]/

[60mph gorilla]

Originally posted by Purge:

Also I recieved an item for the covenant. I was under the impression you have to talk to someone. How does it all work?

You equiped it. Look to the right of the armor slots. And yes you are right about the lightning spear needing 30 faith, but you find that out in the world and not through coop

[ImHelping]

Another Pro Tip: Apparently they made it so attack miracles have damage falloff. Lightning Javelins will be unimpressive when uses like, well, javelins. But point blank chucking it at something practically melee range gives it much more respectable damage (They even added lore along the lines of "Oh, yeah, those guys in the Intro Cutscene to DS1 were doing it wrong, I guess).

While I'm sure people more versed in build planning will be able to inform you of the peak optimal combination for DEX with Miracles, at it's most basic you just put enough DEX in to wield the weapons you want.

Also, unless you want to avoid it for stylistic reasons, Pyromancy will work fairly well on a Faith guy (Pyro uses combined Faith/INT scaling). Plus, the basic Combustion spell is built right into the pyromancy flame as a weapon art, allowing you to cast a close range fire spray without using up a spell slot.

Even if you had the lowest stats for it in the world, having a sudden burst of elemental damage in your back pocket is quite useful. For example, Slimes in DS1 didn't exactly have a lot of health, but fire did a hell of a lot more to them than a hammer bigger than you were.

[Purge]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Another Pro Tip: Apparently they made it so attack miracles have damage falloff. Lightning Javelins will be unimpressive when uses like, well, javelins. But point blank chucking it at something practically melee range gives it much more respectable damage (They even added lore along the lines of "Oh, yeah, those guys in the Intro Cutscene to DS1 were doing it wrong, I guess).

While I'm sure people more versed in build planning will be able to inform you of the peak optimal combination for DEX with Miracles, at it's most basic you just put enough DEX in to wield the weapons you want.

Also, unless you want to avoid it for stylistic reasons, Pyromancy will work fairly well on a Faith guy. Plus, the basic Combustion spell is built right into the pyromancy flame as a weapon art, allowing you to cast a close range fire spray without using up a spell slot.

What do you mean by damage falloff?

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Purge:

What do you mean by damage falloff?

The farther away, the less damage it will do. You need to be treating it like a magical spear for full damage. I've not used it personally yet but I hear the damage loss is rather notable even at throwing knife distances.

Lightning Spears didn't work like that in DS1/DS2, but they do now.

[Purge]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Originally posted by Purge:

What do you mean by damage falloff?

The farther away, the less damage it will do.

That's dumb. So its quite a bit weaker then right.

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Purge:

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

The farther away, the less damage it will do.

That's dumb. So its quite a bit weaker then right.

Well, I still havent used them personally in this game. I've head mixed opinions on end result.

It's hard to pick out the objective stuff between "LOL I can SL1 NG++++ with a Nintendo U Force therefore Git Gud" and "I stubbed my toe, that means difficulty broken!".

Seems you need a good chunk in Faith (Or INT, for sorcery) for damage to be respecable and I THINK the softcap for that is 60? But if you have 30 Faith for lightning funtimes then ramming it into sombody's face should serve you well unless they are resistant to lightning.

Treat it more like a badass weapon art, or if you trust in your health and armor, use the talisman "Next spell can't be interrupted" skill to cast it point blank as they try to hit you.

Also as a DEX/Faith you will likely naturally hit the fastest casting speeds, which should help you use them without being a complete sitting duck like STR/Faith with 7 Dex and no casting speed ring.

[Purge]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Originally posted by Purge:

That's dumb. So its quite a bit weaker then right.

Well, I still havent used them personally in this game. I've head mixed opinions on end result.

It's hard to pick out the objective stuff between "LOL I can SL1 NG++++ with a Nintendo U Force therefore Git Gud" and "I stubbed my toe, that means difficulty broken!".

Seems you need a good chunk in Faith (Or INT, for sorcery) for damage to be respecable and I THINK the softcap for that is 60? But if you have 30 Faith for lightning funtimes then ramming it into sombody's face should serve you well unless they are resistant to lightning.

Treat it more like a badass weapon art, or if you trust in your health and armor, use the talisman "Next spell can't be interrupted" skill to cast it point blank as they try to hit you.

Also as a DEX/Faith you will likely naturally hit the fastest casting speeds, which should help you use them without being a complete sitting duck like STR/Faith with 7 Dex and no casting speed ring.

So your saying the build is fine.
That sounds fun.
So how far should I upgrade my dex to what my weapon reqs. are and stop? 30? or so? I know that the chaos blade is probably of the best I can choose from and that's at 30 I think.

[gamebozco]

Originally posted by Purge:

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Well, I still havent used them personally in this game. I've head mixed opinions on end result.

It's hard to pick out the objective stuff between "LOL I can SL1 NG++++ with a Nintendo U Force therefore Git Gud" and "I stubbed my toe, that means difficulty broken!".

Seems you need a good chunk in Faith (Or INT, for sorcery) for damage to be respecable and I THINK the softcap for that is 60? But if you have 30 Faith for lightning funtimes then ramming it into sombody's face should serve you well unless they are resistant to lightning.

Treat it more like a badass weapon art, or if you trust in your health and armor, use the talisman "Next spell can't be interrupted" skill to cast it point blank as they try to hit you.

Also as a DEX/Faith you will likely naturally hit the fastest casting speeds, which should help you use them without being a complete sitting duck like STR/Faith with 7 Dex and no casting speed ring.

So your saying the build is fine.
That sounds fun.
So how far should I upgrade my dex to what my weapon reqs. are and stop? 30? or so? I know that the chaos blade is probably of the best I can choose from and that's at 30 I think.

What weapon do you want to use? here are my suggestions:
Onikiri and Ubadachi - str-13 dex-25. dual katanas with scale S to faith (@ +10) when infuse lightning.
Dragonslayer Swordspear - str-16 dex-22. cool looking Boss spear with unique weapon arts
Golden Wing Crest Shield - str-14. 100% (no dmg when block) & parry spells

Stat at SL130~ str-16 dex-25, vigor & endurance 40, faith-50, attun-18 (3 slots)
when level just put str/dex stat for your best weapon mini req, and faith @ miracles mini req. focus all points to vigor (u'll live longer).