Can't join Mound Makers - "Non Hostile" enemy is hostile

[abyss]

So I'm trying to access the Mound Makers covanent and I'm following a guide. Some spoiler warnings ahead, just so you know:






Okay, so, supposedly to join the covanent I need to go and talk to a friendly corpse pile in Undead Settlement who tells me to "come into the cage". Near this corpse pile is a ledge you can drop down to with a Butcher who'se carrying a cage on his back.

Now, I'm supposed to be able to interact with the cage on this guy's back and enter a cutscene where I gain access to the Mound Maker's covanent. But the enemy in question aggros on me the moment I go near him and I can't interact with the cage at all.

Anybody know what the hell is goin on? And before you ask: No, I haven't beaten the area boss yet.

[Vanquisher]

Gotta sneak up to the cage. Just follow while walking, otherwise he aggros.

[abyss]

I did sneak up on him, nothing. He turns around and aggros on me the moment I get within a certain distance of him and according to the guide I read, he's not supposed to be aggro.

To top it off, I went to the area as a co-op partner and the enemy didn't aggro on us then.

[Fafnir]

did you kill the invader?

[Devin]

Does armor factor into detection? Because I'm stomping around in knight armor and everyone notices me.

[abyss]

Originally posted by Fafnir:

did you kill the invader?

Yes, I did. And I have the vertebra thingie from the kill.

Originally posted by Devin:

Does armor factor into detection? Because I'm stomping around in knight armor and everyone notices me.

I wouldn't think so, I'm wearing fairly light gear.

[JocularJosh]

You can't enter the cage once you defeated the boss in that area (the tree).
You still have ONE chance to get to that covenant.
You have to help an NPC in front of that boss area.
You'll see a sign right in front of the cursed-tree boss area and it is going to teleport you to her world.
You can only do this AFTER beating aldrich though.

[Fafnir]

if you kill the invader they go hostile on you, so now you cant enter the cage

[TheEvilNoob]

Originally posted by Devin:

Does armor factor into detection? Because I'm stomping around in knight armor and everyone notices me.

It seems to be armor, speed that you are moving, and whether the enemy is facing you or not that make a difference.

[abyss]

Originally posted by Fafnir:

if you kill the invader they go hostile on you, so now you cant enter the cage

The co-op partner I play with did things in the same order as me, and the enemy didn't aggro on them.

Also, I haven't killed the cursed tree or Aldritch yet, so...?

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by ᴄʜᴀᴏs:

Originally posted by Fafnir:

if you kill the invader they go hostile on you, so now you cant enter the cage

The co-op partner I play with did things in the same order as me, and the enemy didn't aggro on them.

Also, I haven't killed the cursed tree or Aldritch yet, so...?

Well then I have no idea why it does not work for you.
Worked fine for me.
Anyway, just keep playing the game and once you defeated aldrich go back and help the NPC.

[Dendarii]

Okay so to continue adding to this mystery, I'm having the same problem with the cage-on-his-back enemy. I have not encountered the npc, so he's still alive for me. I just watched this video, which shows me that there is some condition under which this enemy isn't aggroed, making it very easy to walk up behind him and enter the cage: (spoilers for where the cage leads the player in the video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqnQxT05WI

In my game, the cage-on-back guy is aggroed. I used spook to get up right behind him and looked for a prompt, and all that happened was he turned around and attacked me. I did this multiple times, no prompt. Clearly I've triggered something that makes him aggro and that cuts off the cage for me, but I'm interested in figuring out what the trigger for that is.It probably isn't related to fighting the npc invader because I didn't fight him and OP did fight him and we both have the same problem. So if the npc isn't the trigger that makes this guy aggro, what is?

Note: I /did/ accidentally hit the "nana" cage npc *once* thinking he was an enemy at first. He didn't aggro, but I wonder if that's related?

[Maximus Autismus]

Originally posted by DendariiMerc:

Okay so to continue adding to this mystery, I'm having the same problem with the cage-on-his-back enemy. I have not encountered the npc, so he's still alive for me. I just watched this video, which shows me that there is some condition under which this enemy isn't aggroed, making it very easy to walk up behind him and enter the cage: (spoilers for where the cage leads the player in the video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqnQxT05WI

In my game, the cage-on-back guy is aggroed. I used spook to get up right behind him and looked for a prompt, and all that happened was he turned around and attacked me. I did this multiple times, no prompt. Clearly I've triggered something that makes him aggro and that cuts off the cage for me, but I'm interested in figuring out what the trigger for that is.It probably isn't related to fighting the npc invader because I didn't fight him and OP did fight him and we both have the same problem. So if the npc isn't the trigger that makes this guy aggro, what is?

Note: I /did/ accidentally hit the "nana" cage npc *once* thinking he was an enemy at first. He didn't aggro, but I wonder if that's related?

If you have killed the boss. Then you cant join until you complete the moongirls questline.

[Dendarii]

Originally posted by Kappa AKA the Saint:

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If you have killed the boss. Then you cant join until you complete the moongirls questline.

I havn't killed the boss. I did, however, fight him a few times, get down to his second phase once, die, then explore a bit while I procrastonated on killing the boss. Maybe getting the boss down to his second phase was the trigger that closed the cage off to me?

[Maximus Autismus]

Thats what kills the man who gives you the moundmakers badge.

[Krono]

Originally posted by DendariiMerc:

Originally posted by Kappa AKA the Saint:

If you have killed the boss. Then you cant join until you complete the moongirls questline.

I havn't killed the boss. I did, however, fight him a few times, get down to his second phase once, die, then explore a bit while I procrastonated on killing the boss. Maybe getting the boss down to his second phase was the trigger that closed the cage off to me?

That probably did it. When the tree falls down it crushes the NPC, you can find his body over by the altar