DARK SOULS™ III

DARK SOULS™ III

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Ok I passed the game so wtf the game was about?
My end scene was me siting nexted to a coiled sword.

I have just linked the first flame.

Can some one then, in 3 short sentences, tell methe whole lore of DS3, that is, why I have been doing what I did and why the game reached an end when I "linked the 1st flame", whatever that means?

edit:; oh, spoiler alert?
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Thomas Eichhorst; 19 Απρ 2016, 10:32
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what was wrong with world?
The First Flame (which is the bringer of all live in the Dark Souls world) is dying and with it comes the undead curse. Most of your quest is to prove you are a worty Heir Of Fire to become another Lord Of Cinder and link the First Flame to keep the world alive.

Something like that anyway.
To keep the world *as we know it* alive. Letting the First Flame die would theoretically make humans the new gods, to then be replaced by the dragons, to then be replaced by the flame gods, to then be replaced by the humans again, etc. The cycle would become natural gain, rather than this series of relinkings that Gwyn started. In theory, at least.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από SomoneSuspicious:
well to be fair FromSoft is not known for throwing big story explanaitions your way
Miyazaki made it such way so as to allow players to form their own stories with the framework they provided. I think people's interpretations have been very accurate to what he had hoped for.
I heard there are 4 endings in total and one of them is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sick, maybe that interests you ( I think you have to follow the sidequest of yoel)
Explain the lore in three sentences? I'll try...

The world is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and only you can ♥♥♥♥♥♥ it.

When you reach the Kiln you realise it is an actual cluster ♥♥♥♥.

In the end you can either save the world from another round of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or ♥♥♥♥ off.


I tried...
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Gale Erick:
The First Flame (which is the bringer of all live in the Dark Souls world) is dying and with it comes the undead curse. Most of your quest is to prove you are a worty Heir Of Fire to become another Lord Of Cinder and link the First Flame to keep the world alive.

Something like that anyway.
To keep the world *as we know it* alive. Letting the First Flame die would theoretically make humans the new gods, to then be replaced by the dragons, to then be replaced by the flame gods, to then be replaced by the humans again, etc. The cycle would become natural gain, rather than this series of relinkings that Gwyn started. In theory, at least.


ok so - you need to kill alll other heirs to become a heir yourself.

because there can only be 1 heir - the true heir - in order for relinking to happen-

relinking the flame==keeping the fire elive==keeping the world of non-dragons and non-undead alive?
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Thomas Eichhorst; 19 Απρ 2016, 10:53
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To keep the world *as we know it* alive. Letting the First Flame die would theoretically make humans the new gods, to then be replaced by the dragons, to then be replaced by the flame gods, to then be replaced by the humans again, etc. The cycle would become natural gain, rather than this series of relinkings that Gwyn started. In theory, at least.


ok so - you need to kill alll other heirs to become a heir yourself.

because there can only be 1 heir - the true heir - in order for relinking to happen-

relinking the flame==keeping the fire elive==keeping the world of non-dragons and non-undead alive?

Not necessarily, all flames fade. The lords/heirs that you killed, their flames are fading too. You get to choose whether you wanto relit the flame with your soul.
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To keep the world *as we know it* alive. Letting the First Flame die would theoretically make humans the new gods, to then be replaced by the dragons, to then be replaced by the flame gods, to then be replaced by the humans again, etc. The cycle would become natural gain, rather than this series of relinkings that Gwyn started. In theory, at least.


ok so - you need to kill alll other heirs to become a heir yourself.

because there can only be 1 heir - the true heir - in order for relinking to happen-

relinking the flame==keeping the fire elive==keeping the world of non-dragons and non-undead alive?

The way I understood is it, is that by killing all of the heirs your soul became strong enough to become fuel for the fire. That's how it goes in every souls game. There are always the four, powerful souls that you need to claim so your own soul is strong enough to complete your goal.

When the first flame begins to fade, the undead curse appears and humans begin to go hollow. Humans are linked to darkness, and so when the flame starts to fade, their true form - Hollows - Is all that remains.

Now the dragons, I'm not sure why they're here. The 'Everlasting Dragons' were always linked with the point before the first flame. They are 'grey,' neutral, essentially, and they were supposed to all be dead by the end of Dark Souls 1. Excluding one that you can find in a very hidden zone.
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ok so - you need to kill alll other heirs to become a heir yourself.

because there can only be 1 heir - the true heir - in order for relinking to happen-

relinking the flame==keeping the fire elive==keeping the world of non-dragons and non-undead alive?

The way I understood is it, is that by killing all of the heirs your soul became strong enough to become fuel for the fire. That's how it goes in every souls game. There are always the four, powerful souls that you need to claim so your own soul is strong enough to complete your goal.

When the first flame begins to fade, the undead curse appears and humans begin to go hollow. Humans are linked to darkness, and so when the flame starts to fade, their true form - Hollows - Is all that remains.

Now the dragons, I'm not sure why they're here. The 'Everlasting Dragons' were always linked with the point before the first flame. They are 'grey,' neutral, essentially, and they were supposed to all be dead by the end of Dark Souls 1. Excluding one that you can find in a very hidden zone.
One of the flame that was found by the pygmy(hallow) was scattered and lived in all the hallows that were living in the darkness. Gwyn linked the hallows to the flame/bonfire so as to allow their souls fuel the flame.
you should watch "dark souls 3 opening cinematic explained" basically the flame is fading and you have to relink it, you relink it with your soul so you become a hollow and the flame starts fading again so someone else has to link it again, I hope I understood it myself if not please explain because I want to know
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The way I understood is it, is that by killing all of the heirs your soul became strong enough to become fuel for the fire. That's how it goes in every souls game. There are always the four, powerful souls that you need to claim so your own soul is strong enough to complete your goal.

When the first flame begins to fade, the undead curse appears and humans begin to go hollow. Humans are linked to darkness, and so when the flame starts to fade, their true form - Hollows - Is all that remains.

Now the dragons, I'm not sure why they're here. The 'Everlasting Dragons' were always linked with the point before the first flame. They are 'grey,' neutral, essentially, and they were supposed to all be dead by the end of Dark Souls 1. Excluding one that you can find in a very hidden zone.
One of the flame that was found by the pygmy(hallow) was scattered and lived in all the hallows that were living in the darkness. Gwyn linked the hallows to the flame/bonfire so as to allow their souls fuel the flame.
I think the idea was that the pygmy hid its soul from the others because its soul was weak in the fire, but gained strength as it faded. Gwyn realized this as the Flame dwindled, so he linked the Dark Soul to the Flame so that humans would hollow, motivating the more altruistic ones to gather powerful souls and sacrifice themselves to undo the curse, thus allowing the Flame to constantly burn. But Kaathe and Aldia tell players there's a way to totally break the curse. Kaathe says it's by letting the Flame die and Aldia thinks it's to do with the dragons, who may very well reclaim their grey world after the Age of Dark.
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One of the flame that was found by the pygmy(hallow) was scattered and lived in all the hallows that were living in the darkness. Gwyn linked the hallows to the flame/bonfire so as to allow their souls fuel the flame.
I think the idea was that the pygmy hid its soul from the others because its soul was weak in the fire, but gained strength as it faded. Gwyn realized this as the Flame dwindled, so he linked the Dark Soul to the Flame so that humans would hollow, motivating the more altruistic ones to gather powerful souls and sacrifice themselves to undo the curse, thus allowing the Flame to constantly burn. But Kaathe and Aldia tell players there's a way to totally break the curse. Kaathe says it's by letting the Flame die and Aldia thinks it's to do with the dragons, who may very well reclaim their grey world after the Age of Dark.
Thats a really good summary, but I don't think linking the hallow to the flame makes humans hallow. Pursuers were made to collect souls to feed the flame.
Now that you've blasted through the main story, go again at a slower pace,
paying attention to all the little details that you probably missed the first time around.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Paid_Didn't_Win:
So what is the betrayal that the Fire Keeper sees when you give her the eyes? Is it that Gwyn betrayed humanity by linking them to the flame and beginning the Undead Curse? That the curse will never end if the cycle of rekindling the first flame never stops?

Is that why this ending has you putting the flame out forever?
All the souls have that ending. The developers have always left that decision to the player. She might be referring to Seathe, but no idea why she would reference that.
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I think the idea was that the pygmy hid its soul from the others because its soul was weak in the fire, but gained strength as it faded. Gwyn realized this as the Flame dwindled, so he linked the Dark Soul to the Flame so that humans would hollow, motivating the more altruistic ones to gather powerful souls and sacrifice themselves to undo the curse, thus allowing the Flame to constantly burn. But Kaathe and Aldia tell players there's a way to totally break the curse. Kaathe says it's by letting the Flame die and Aldia thinks it's to do with the dragons, who may very well reclaim their grey world after the Age of Dark.
Thats a really good summary, but I don't think linking the hallow to the flame makes humans hallow. Pursuers were made to collect souls to feed the flame.
Aldia mentions that Gwyn's actions caused humans to take a fleeting form. Aldia resents Gwyn for making humans set pieces on the stage of life, so to speak. I'd imagine he means that Gwyn reversed evolution in a way, causing humans to weaken with the fading Flame instead of grow stronger. As for Pursuers, I guess they're just a very temporary solution until a human can come along and Link the Fire themselves. I dunno. Just speculation.
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All the souls have that ending. The developers have always left that decision to the player. She might be referring to Seathe, but no idea why she would reference that.

Can't wait for someone to explain this game to me in a coherent and well articulated Youtube video... watching all the lore stuff from 1 and 2 (which I played through, albeit a long time ago) just has me confused more
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe0DNp0mKMqrYVaTundyr9w
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