Rapier for PvE?

[eyeshell]

Is it any good, or am I wasting my time in creating an Arya Stark character?

[Erikon]

its good, along with a 100 physical sheild

[eyeshell]

I wanted to go along with a Small Shield.... sigh

[Dorin]

I tried it for a while, it's alright. You can stunlock a lot of lesser enemies to death, even medium enemies if you buff it with carthus' fire arc. For bosses it's smooth and you can always get quickly back to rolling after giving the boss 1 or 2 pokes.

Not the best PvE weapon by a stretch, but perfectly functional. I was using it without shields (with a target shield for parries only), with a 100% phys shield it might be a lot better.

[Weyland]

It comes good with a mage's staff. Quick enough to save you at close range, long and strong enough to let you save some mana. And stunlocks enemies.

[RosettaStoned]

*pssst* Hey.. Use it in pvp!

[oh baby ❤]

eh

[AveryBlue]

Rapiers are pretty strong across the board. PvP and PvE

[NixXxoN]

It's a matter of a bunch of smaller numbers quickly adding up to a big number vs one or two big numbers. You could make almost anything be perfectly viable in PvE.

[ImHelping]

While some people will scream at you becaause of their PvP salt, I'd suggest you use the Estoc over the Rapier.

Not because of the Estoc's strength, but because of the Rapier's weaknesses.

For example, that fancy stance art the rapier has? It will just harmlessly bounce off a hollow soldier's wooden shield.

Most weapons with stance arts can guard break a PvE enemy with a greatshield. But the Rapier stance ares are meanwhile WTF levels of terrible.

The Estoc also has a horizontal slash for it's R2. which adds quite a lot of versatility in a PvE situation.

EDIT: You can likely manage with a normal rapier, or Ricard's rapier way down the line when you can get it. But you will have a much better time in PvE with the Estoc due to it's moveset (Shield splitter isn't as fancy, but actually does it's job dealing some bypass damage through shields. Horizontal slash is helpful for multiple enemies near eachother, etc).

Plus, you can start the game with an Estoc if you pick Assassin, and also get the handy Spook Spell while at it (silent steps and safe fall combined).

Heads up about the spook spell. It's buggy to make enemies BETTER at noticing you, if you are Two handed wielding your weapon, instead of one handing it. When one handing you can literally sprint up to enemies for a backstab, if they aren't programmed to ignore such tricks.

[Marty]

All spammy one-handers are pretty good. I'd put rapier to the same category as a shortsword, light and with low requirements, an excellent sidearm or a primary for casters and anyone not willing to invest into vitality or going for 30% equipment load, but with stats outclassed by most heavier weapons.

[Terra Blade]

Originally posted by Ellraiser:

Is it any good, or am I wasting my time in creating an Arya Stark character?

It's fine, you just need to be able to master kicking on command and baiting shield users to lower their guard. I'm noticing that light weapons like the rapier require more finesse, standard swords and maces just let you brute force your way through, and magic requires out thinking the game and your opponets to get full use...so I have to applaud From with their weapon design.

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Terra Blade:

Originally posted by Ellraiser:

Is it any good, or am I wasting my time in creating an Arya Stark character?

It's fine, you just need to be able to master kicking on command and baiting shield users to lower their guard. I'm noticing that light weapons like the rapier require more finesse, standard swords and maces just let you brute force your way through, and magic requires out thinking the game and your opponets to get full use...so I have to applaud From with their weapon design.

Wow, you must have never touched thrusting swords then.

You can't kick with a thrusting sword.

It makes you do a little (mostly useless) backstep slash instead, like some curved swords do.

Rest of your post is fairly relevant, though.

[Terra Blade]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Wow, you must have never touched thrusting swords then.

Not for a full play through, so yes I assumed you could kick with them. But I only used the rapier with my sorcerer until her magic was strong enough and I picked up the ferron flashblade, which you can get as early as the road of sacrifice. So beyond that? haven't used them much.

[Groshen88]

Rapier is my main hand weapon and offhand weapon on my 1st mage char and offhand weapons on my 2 other characters. Amazing utility and parry. It is a really good weapon but I pvp with it but it got me through ng++ so no complaints

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Terra Blade:

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Wow, you must have never touched thrusting swords then.

Not for a full play through, so yes I assumed you could kick with them. But I only used the rapier with my sorcerer until her magic was strong enough and I picked up the ferron flashblade, which you can get as early as the road of sacrifice. So beyond that? haven't used them much.

To be fair, I went back to double check in case you could kick with one of the earlier thrusting swords, because they love to play with movesets between games (Like the longsword in DS2).

Flashblade looks cool as hell, I just wish you couldn't parry the thing considering it's, well, a spell. So you're already having to spend FP on something that's basically a replacement for a normal sword attack.

That said, it's only an issue for PvP. It's a lot more practical in PvE.