Password matchmaking is broken?

[G0rt]

My friend and I have been trying for over an hour to summon but it just doesnt work. We are both in "ember" state, we can see messages and bloodstains. I am level 50 and he is level 15 but I read that if you're using a password your soul level/weapon upgrades don't matter. please help, what are we doing wrong?

[penumbric_]

They do.
Weapon levels and Souls levels matter no matter what.

[G0rt]

Originally posted by A r t o r i a s:

They do.
Weapon levels and Souls levels matter no matter what.

Originally posted by Derpy:

you can only summon people in your level class..

same goes for invaders, a level 1 shouldn't be fighting a lvl 100,

https://twitter.com/OroboroTheNinja/status/714280381055414275

[Strikerzidane]

They don't matter. Me and my brother did coop runs yesterday and my weapons are +3 higher and SL has a 10+ difference.

By oever an hour, you mean you stayed in just one place right and the boss on host's game hasn't been beaten yet right?
I noticed the summoning sign doesn't show up right away. Give it <7min (while staying in the area), you should see it.

[G0rt]

Originally posted by StrikerZidane:

They don't matter. Me and my brother did coop runs yesterday and my weapons are +3 higher and SL has a 10+ difference.

By oever an hour, you mean you stayed in just one place right and the boss on host's game hasn't been beaten yet right?
I noticed the summoning sign doesn't show up right away. Give it <7min (while staying in the area), you should see it.

Yeah, host hasnt beaten boss yet, We waited like 10 minutes each time before changing the password to something new. It has been about 50 minutes so far and no luck. :(

[artiksilver]

IF you use password matching, you can be however many levels apart you want, it'll scale your damage and resists down to the weaker level/upgrade temporarily.

In order to get the best chance at seeing the summon sign if the level difference is more than 20, choose an area with few, or none, signs and a good distance from the popular ones, then make sure you set a password. The higher the level difference and sign concentration, the longuer it'll take to see it.

[Doomvora]

Certain areas have issues such as lothric high wall (for some reason) and halfway fortress due to being a highly active pvp zone. The password system nullifies any requirements for summoning and lowers the higher levels stats and weapons to lower levels to suit the hosts current capabilities.

Consequentially you may have issues in anor londo due to its high pvp locale.

[Real Magic Duck]

Fromsoftware (if my friend was correct) released something that said that password matchmaking is not working properly at this time. For some reason, the system gets all gummed up when you and your palls are beyond normal summoning ranges. However, it does still work. It just doesn't work right away. For the last two days, my brother and I were playing with our friend. My brother and I are SL 50+, my friend was fresh out the grave. It took between 30 - 45 mins for our signs to appear after setting the password, but it did work. One thing I've noticed is that once you get the first summon to show up, you won't have any more delays for the rest of your session. As soon as we'd clear a boss and get to the next coop zone, our friend would see our signs within 15 seconds of putting them down for the rest of the night.

From all the sources I can find on the internet, no one really knows how the servers match players. Many different people come up with many different ways that seem to work for them, I.E. unequip your weapons, use a password thats max length (8 characters), guests place signs down, then host places sign down and then host cancel sign right away. Nothing yeilds consistent results, but one thing is for certain, the password matchmaking system is flawed in v1.03 and Fromsoftware knows and is working on it for 1.04

[G0rt]

Thanks for the help guys, with your tips I got it to work. thank you :D