Playstation button in UI

[baukereg]

Is it so hard for developers to include playstation-styled buttons as an option for the UI? Nearly all games only offer xbox buttons, like no one plays with a dualshock.

Respect for Heart Machine who actually did it in Hyper Light Drifter. Buy that game if you haven't!

[Blade43v3r]

Well pc is microsoft and microsoft is xbox so yeah... xbox ui layout

[baukereg]

Last time I checked, the game was developed by From Soft, not Microsoft.

[76561198006416723]

there aren't even keyboard prompts, and you're asking for playstation prompts

[baukereg]

Didn't know about the absence of keyboard prompts. That's even more to blame the developer for.

[lolschrauber]

If you want to blame anyone, it should be Sony.

Playstation controllers are not supported by Windows, because there are no proper drivers.
Why would games have the buttons of controllers, that virtually don't exist in PC gaming, in their UI?

[baukereg]

I play Dualshock 3, it's even easier if you have a Dualshock 4. It's probably not the majority, but there are PC gamers out there that do play with a Dualshock and the developer knows that. It's not rocket science to add playstation-styled buttons. They're already there in the PS4 version!

As I said, Heart Machine did it in Hyper Light Drifter, and what a revelation was that! Guess that's the difference between a small indie team versus a big developer of a franchise that sells millions anyway.

[lolschrauber]

Publicado originalmente por baukereg:

I play Dualshock 3, it's even easier if you have a Dualshock 4. It's probably not the majority, but there are PC gamers out there that do play with a Dualshock and the developer knows that. It's not rocket science to add playstation-styled buttons. They're already there in the PS4 version!

As I said. Blame Sony.
They don't release drivers for PC. If that happened, you'd propably get your precious UI-Buttons.

You can't expect the developers to support something that isn't supported by the base that this game runs on.

[Zyrconia]

They have the PS4 version, so they already are capable of displaying the PS4 buttons.

Ditto for the Xbox.

Most people who own both PS3/4 and PC probably use the DualShock on the PC, since it is redundant to buy and extra Xbox controller that will feel slightly alien to you, so the audience is there. Plus, a lot for games have the option or offer mods.

As a developer myself, I can tell you that not adding that option is lazy. Just is. Not ifs or buts. Lazy. And if it takes From more than 30 minutes to add that option, they have bad developers. Judging by their previous technical expertise this seems true again. And since they didn't decide day one to add that option, they also lack foresight.

[lolschrauber]

Publicado originalmente por Zyrconia:

Most people who own both PS3/4 and PC probably use the DualShock on the PC, since it is redundant to buy and extra Xbox controller that will feel slightly alien to you, so the audience is there. Plus, a lot for games have the option or offer mods.

As a developer myself, I can tell you that not adding that option is lazy. Just is. Not ifs or buts. Lazy. And if it takes From more than 30 minutes to add that option, they have bad developers. Judging by their previous technical expertise this seems true again. And since they didn't decide day one to add that option, they also lack foresight.

As a developer yourself, you should know to blame Sony before you blame From.

[baukereg]

Sony has nothing to do with this. Yes, I agree that Sony should support the Dualshock for PC. But this is a choice of the developer, and a lazy one.

[FireShark]

Enter the Gungeon also has PS4 icons. A $13 indie game. There is no excuse.

[Zyrconia]

Publicado originalmente por lolschrauber:

Publicado originalmente por Zyrconia:

Most people who own both PS3/4 and PC probably use the DualShock on the PC, since it is redundant to buy and extra Xbox controller that will feel slightly alien to you, so the audience is there. Plus, a lot for games have the option or offer mods.

As a developer myself, I can tell you that not adding that option is lazy. Just is. Not ifs or buts. Lazy. And if it takes From more than 30 minutes to add that option, they have bad developers. Judging by their previous technical expertise this seems true again. And since they didn't decide day one to add that option, they also lack foresight.

As a developer yourself, you should know to blame Sony before you blame From.

Nope, makes no sense. Sony did not develop the game. From did. Sony did not do a bunch of questionable design decisions and even real ♥♥♥♥♥ ups from DS1 to DS3. From did. The fact that there are no drivers doesn't stop thousands of people from using the controller every day.

Companies have a lot of resources. If some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ guy on the Internet like me knows how common DS3 on the PC is and could code better resolution support and non jittery foliage in my sleep with one hand tied behind my back while masturbating a cow with the other, From have no excuses.

Add a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ toggle to your game and reserve spot in your UI texture for PS3 buttons, Xbox buttons and generic controller option. Period.

This goes to all developers.

[lolschrauber]

Publicado originalmente por Zyrconia:

Publicado originalmente por lolschrauber:

As a developer yourself, you should know to blame Sony before you blame From.

Nope, makes no sense. Sony did not develop the game. From did. Sony did not do a bunch of questionable design decisions and even real ♥♥♥♥♥ ups from DS1 to DS3. From did. The fact that there are no drivers doesn't stop thousands of people from using the controller every day.

Companies have a lot of resources. If some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ guy on the Internet like me knows how common DS3 on the PC is and could code better resolution support and non jittery foliage in my sleep with one hand tied behind my back while masturbating a cow with the other, From have no excuses.

This goes to all developers.

You honestly expect PC game developers to include the UI for a controller that is not even supported on PC? That's completely ridiculous.

You might as well blame the developers of the third party software that is required to even use those controllers on the PC.

It's Sony's fault that Playstation controllers aren't nearly as popular as Xbox controllers.

[baukereg]

It's not about the lack of support by Sony. Many PC gamer play with Dualshock, that's a hard fact and that's more important than Sony just being a company that still lives in the middle ages. From Soft doesn't design for Sony, it designs for gamers, consumers, the ones that actually pay for their product. Cut the BS.

And as said before, it's no big deal. Half an hour of work, the resources are already there.

[lolschrauber]

Publicado originalmente por baukereg:

It's not about the lack of support by Sony. Many PC gamer play with Dualshock, that's a hard fact and that's more important than Sony just being a company that still lives in the middle ages. From Soft doesn't design for Sony, it designs for gamers. Cut the BS.

And as said before, it's no big deal. Half an hour of work, the resources are already there.

Many people use the controllers, I know (did I say otherwise?). Still, they aren't supported. Thus, they virtually don't exist on PC gaming (as in developers don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about them)