How much luck do I need for a bleed build?

[Nightjar]

I want to try out a bleed build with claws and mailbreaker, just wondering how much do I need to invest to get some decent returns. Is there a softcap for luck? Any help would be greatly appreciated, Cheers.

[jiofreed48]

i do anri with 40 luck its pretty good. anri also scales in faith and strngth and dex so im doing 40 luck 40 faith 30 strenght and 30 dex but you can go all the way to 50 or 60 luck but the softcap is i think 40 or 50 luck

[jiofreed48]

but when you go fight bosses with a level 3 or 4 anri sword with carthus rouge its just amazing when the bleed procs like it procs for 1k+ damages its best against dancer and oscieros but overall its great. i think the one i have the hardest time with this build is dragslayer armour. but other than that princes are easy with bleed in the second phase like lothric dies soo fast just stay behind and proc the bleed.

[Nightjar]

Originally posted by jiofreed48:

i do anri with 40 luck its pretty good. anri also scales in faith and strngth and dex so im doing 40 luck 40 faith 30 strenght and 30 dex but you can go all the way to 50 or 60 luck but the softcap is i think 40 or 50 luck

Ok cheers... Wow thats a fair bit of investment! I want to stay at SL120 for PvP.. So im not sure how much Dex points im willing to part with... I have 60 dex, just wondering is it worth cutting points off dex or trying to drop my health & stamina...

EDIT: I wish you could just have unlimited rebirths so you could experiment more! 5 is fairly lame..

[jiofreed48]

Originally posted by Salty Seadog:

Originally posted by jiofreed48:

i do anri with 40 luck its pretty good. anri also scales in faith and strngth and dex so im doing 40 luck 40 faith 30 strenght and 30 dex but you can go all the way to 50 or 60 luck but the softcap is i think 40 or 50 luck

Ok cheers... Wow thats a fair bit of investment! I want to stay at SL120 for PvP.. So im not sure how much Dex points im willing to part with... I have 60 dex, just wondering is it worth cutting points off dex or trying to drop my health & stamina...

EDIT: I wish you could just have unlimited rebirths so you could experiment more! 5 is fairly lame..

lol nice just do ng+ with no levels its all gucci sl120 ng+ is pretty easy

[Uottafac]

With Deprived:

SL 120
VIG 27
ATN 10
END 28
VIT 14
STR 30
DEX 30
INT 10
FTH 30
LCK 30

For Anri's SS. Seems good.

[TheMetalCorpser]

Originally posted by Uottafac:

With Deprived:

SL 120
VIG 27
ATN 10
END 28
VIT 14
STR 30
DEX 30
INT 10
FTH 30
LCK 30

For Anri's SS. Seems good.

Some of the str might not be needed if you are only focusing dex weapons and doing a pure bleed build for PvP.

EDIT: Not aimed at you directly just towards OP when/if he reads your post.

[ WraithGear]

you really don't need any, honestly, carthus adds like 40 points of bleed to any weapon you can put it on. Now if you want to make a 3 way quality, and just have the luck double for damage, and bleed, then you want like 30-35 luck. Remember 40 is the hard cap for luck on bleed, and the soft cap for hollowing. And also remember that hollowing wepons give up to +5 to you luck stat.

[TheMetalCorpser]

Originally posted by  WraithGear:

you really don't need any, honestly, carthus adds like 40 points of bleed to any weapon you can put it on. Now if you want to make a 3 way quality, and just have the luck double for damage, and bleed, then you want like 30-35 luck. Remember 40 is the hard cap for luck on bleed, and the soft cap for hollowing. And also remember that hollowing wepons give up to +5 to you luck stat.

I can't remember what exactly does hollowing give/weaken?

[ WraithGear]

Originally posted by UnbornCorpser:

Originally posted by  WraithGear:

you really don't need any, honestly, carthus adds like 40 points of bleed to any weapon you can put it on. Now if you want to make a 3 way quality, and just have the luck double for damage, and bleed, then you want like 30-35 luck. Remember 40 is the hard cap for luck on bleed, and the soft cap for hollowing. And also remember that hollowing wepons give up to +5 to you luck stat.

I can't remember what exactly does hollowing give/weaken?

hollowing gives you the equivelent to D scaaling in luck. and lowers both str/dex scalling a bit.
also if you have +16 holloing stat, you get 5 luck. you will notice it ups your bleed, but thats because of the afore mentioned luck levels.

[TheMetalCorpser]

Originally posted by  WraithGear:

hollowing gives you the equivelent to D scaaling in luck. and lowers both str/dex scalling a bit.
also if you have +16 holloing stat, you get 5 luck. you will notice it ups your bleed, but thats because of the afore mentioned luck levels.

So when the soft/hard cap is hit on luck how effective would hollowing still be? And would it be viable to go that route with 40 luck? Or just stick with infusings that increase str or dex?

[Nightjar]

Awesome, thanks for the advice!

[ WraithGear]

Originally posted by UnbornCorpser:

Originally posted by  WraithGear:

hollowing gives you the equivelent to D scaaling in luck. and lowers both str/dex scalling a bit.
also if you have +16 holloing stat, you get 5 luck. you will notice it ups your bleed, but thats because of the afore mentioned luck levels.

So when the soft/hard cap is hit on luck how effective would hollowing still be? And would it be viable to go that route with 40 luck? Or just stick with infusings that increase str or dex?

i think i saw around 12 extra AR for the 20 levels, i might be off but i defenatly remember that luck should stop at 40. bleed stops dead at 40. in practice, you only need 35 luck, because the hollowed weapon will give you the extra 5 levels.

[bigdale]

If you hollow your weapon and an offhand (shield/caestus) you could hit the bleed cap at 30 luck as you will get +5 bonus luck from each piece of equipment so long as you are sufficiently hollowed.

[ WraithGear]

yea, but i prefer the simple infusesd buckler, so you get infinate weapon arts. so for me i need 35

[Nightjar]

Welp... Its not going well! Have 60 dex and 35 luck with my hollow infusions.

Just fought someone exclusively using a shortbow in PvP, and I thought excellent! No better player to test how long poison takes to build up! Managed to hit him directly with poison mist twice in a very short time frame and hit him with over 18 poison knives, and he still wasnt poisoned....

I got so fed up I just wanted to see how long it would take, so we just ended up standing face to face like the two biggest noobs youve ever seen in your life, just darting poison knives/arrows at each other... He never got poisoned... :(