Lol fromsoftware how do you expect to nerf the estoc and dark sword?

[Lord Tony]

Weapon damage with these two is not a problem. These swords could do like 10 damage and it would still be an issue.

These weapons are only king in PVP because stunlocking is an issue.

Bring back poise and there will be less stunlock ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[TrueArchery]

引用自 GrayHound：

引用自 Bloodyfish：

Not with the dark sword, apparently. It used to work, but stopped last patch.

Besides everyone with some brain cells will hit you only 2 times if you hold a parry tool.

Don't you think that you're expecting a bit too much from the casual player who googled for "ds3 best op weapon"?

3rd hit parry works for me, btw, but not always 100% consistent and I'm usually damaged. Seems like the window is easily influenced by lag.

[Thoughtzilla]

引用自 Xelor20：

You can only get stun lock for 2 hits.

/thread

And if you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about lag vs people in other countries, turn off the matchmaking for other countries. Pretty simple stuff. L2Roll.

[Jay ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥]

引用自 Freestyle：

引用自 RainZ - ABABABAABAAAA：

I don't get why people complain about estoc.

Is like one of the most easy weapons to predict and to parry. Same goes for the dark sword.

What SL are you? 20 perhaps?

Estoc and Dark Sword are considered "strong" and "op" only among noobs.

Best Regards.

pls teach me how to parry people from fcking America/South America when i'm in Australia?

What does it even mean? If you play from the moon is not the game fault.

It's your connection, and the game doesn't have to adapt to the fact that you're playing from the Moon.

Best Regards.

[TrueArchery]

引用自 SpectrumWarrior：

call me a noob but how do you parry a estoc spammer? tried with caestus, parrying dagger and target shield...my characters does not enter in parry animation...I can only roll away..and some times cant even do that when being hited by estoc spam
also...the guy would even drain all my STM spamming while I block - I use a black knight shield +3 (good stability) and with max STM

Parry the 3rd hit. Or predict the first. Cestus spam is pretty easy to get away with unpunished.
Or abuse the fast recovery after the 2-hit-stunlock and mash L2, hoping that they throw out a third R1. You'll usually get the parry.

[TrueArchery]

引用自 Thoughtzilla：

引用自 Xelor20：

You can only get stun lock for 2 hits.

/thread

And if you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about lag vs people in other countries, turn off the matchmaking for other countries. Pretty simple stuff. L2Roll.

Isn't that still just "Japan" and "everything else"?

[Lord Tony]

引用自 MegakruemelGER：

引用自 Lord Tony -May 22 is my birthday：

R1 spam is king in PVP.

I never had this issue in full havel in the old games.

Plus Havel costs a ♥♥♥♥-ton of VIT just to wear without not being able to roll AT ALL. Heavy armor just looses out in every compartment, with the 25% damage reduction cap and all. You should get back something for bringing the heavy stuff, right?

I am not even going to bother with the bloodborne puns like "This is Blood Souls now". Because this is Bloodborne now. But with knight stuff that doesn't do knight stuff.

Right you need a ♥♥♥♥ ton of vit to be able to move at a decent pace.

There is even weapons like gundyrs weapon that is suppose to cripple poise.

So the counter measurements for poise are there, why did they have to remove poise?

[Freestyle]

引用自 RainZ - ABABABAABAAAA：

引用自 Freestyle：

pls teach me how to parry people from fcking America/South America when i'm in Australia?

What does it even mean? If you play from the moon is not the game fault.

It's your connection, and the game doesn't have to adapt to the fact that you're playing from the Moon.

Best Regards.

lol, my connection huh, do u even know whats latency? where the fck does the Moon come from? Are u illiterate or sth?

引用自 Thoughtzilla：

引用自 Xelor20：

You can only get stun lock for 2 hits.

/thread

And if you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about lag vs people in other countries, turn off the matchmaking for other countries. Pretty simple stuff. L2Roll.

yo smartass, matchmaking is only for Japan

think before u type

[Thoughtzilla]

引用自 Freestyle：

引用自 RainZ - ABABABAABAAAA：

What does it even mean? If you play from the moon is not the game fault.

It's your connection, and the game doesn't have to adapt to the fact that you're playing from the Moon.

Best Regards.

lol, my connection huh, do u even know whats latency? where the fck does the Moon come from? Are u illiterate or sth?

引用自 Thoughtzilla：

/thread

And if you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about lag vs people in other countries, turn off the matchmaking for other countries. Pretty simple stuff. L2Roll.

yo smartass, matchmaking is only for Japan

think before u type

I'd bother replying if I thought another "ZOMG DURK SWURD OP" thread poster would listen.

[Bloodyfish]

引用自 Lord Tony -May 22 is my birthday：

引用自 MegakruemelGER：

Plus Havel costs a ♥♥♥♥-ton of VIT just to wear without not being able to roll AT ALL. Heavy armor just looses out in every compartment, with the 25% damage reduction cap and all. You should get back something for bringing the heavy stuff, right?

I am not even going to bother with the bloodborne puns like "This is Blood Souls now". Because this is Bloodborne now. But with knight stuff that doesn't do knight stuff.

Right you need a ♥♥♥♥ ton of vit to be able to move at a decent pace.

There is even weapons like gundyrs weapon that is suppose to cripple poise.

So the counter measurements for poise are there, why did they have to remove poise?

They didn't remove poise, they changed how it works. People made the same claims about DS2 before they figured out how it works.

[Lord Tony]

The current DS3 poise system is useless. Even if it's there it's useless.

Armor poise has no effect on the poise system they have for rolling.

[Kazmor]

引用自 Bloodyfish：

The only issue I have is that dark sword does way too much damage for its stamina usage. Estoc really isn't nearly as annoying as the dark sword. Also, there are no stunlocks. You can be hit twice. Stunlock means they keep on stunning you til you're dead.

Thats wrong, there are enough weapons wich can combo R1-weaponarts-R2 into oneshoot combo without any possible counterplay after getting hit once by a light attack. God thanks most people are to stupid to use such a simple ♥♥♥♥.
No Poise is an issue when it comes to this.

- No i wont tell u weapons wich work for that.

[TrueArchery]

引用自 Bloodyfish：

引用自 Lord Tony -May 22 is my birthday：

Right you need a ♥♥♥♥ ton of vit to be able to move at a decent pace.

There is even weapons like gundyrs weapon that is suppose to cripple poise.

So the counter measurements for poise are there, why did they have to remove poise?

They didn't remove poise, they changed how it works. People made the same claims about DS2 before they figured out how it works.

Tell us then.

i only know about the .1 poise that enables hyperarmor. More doesn't matter.

[Freestyle]

引用自 Thoughtzilla：

引用自 Freestyle：

lol, my connection huh, do u even know whats latency? where the fck does the Moon come from? Are u illiterate or sth?


yo smartass, matchmaking is only for Japan

think before u type

I'd bother replying if I thought another "ZOMG DURK SWURD OP" thread poster would listen.

ofc when u reply sth idiotic like 'jst turn on matchmaking' would be hard to make a comeback

once again think before u type

[TrueArchery]

引用自 Kazmor：

引用自 Bloodyfish：

The only issue I have is that dark sword does way too much damage for its stamina usage. Estoc really isn't nearly as annoying as the dark sword. Also, there are no stunlocks. You can be hit twice. Stunlock means they keep on stunning you til you're dead.

Thats wrong, there are enough weapons wich can combo R1-weaponarts-L1 into oneshoot combo without any possible counterplay after getting hit once by a light attack. God thanks most people are to stupid to use such a simple ♥♥♥♥.
No Poise is an issue when it comes to this.

*R1-L2-R2 just for the record.

And the BK Glaive can do a R2-R1-L2-R2 wombo combo. Scary ♥♥♥♥.

[Kazmor]

引用自 TrueArchery：

引用自 Kazmor：

Thats wrong, there are enough weapons wich can combo R1-weaponarts-L1 into oneshoot combo without any possible counterplay after getting hit once by a light attack. God thanks most people are to stupid to use such a simple ♥♥♥♥.
No Poise is an issue when it comes to this.

*R1-L2-R2 just for the record.

And the BK Glaive can do a R2-R1-L2-R2 wombo combo. Scary ♥♥♥♥.

I dont like the names of the controller buttons, thats why i normaly go like: lightattack-weaponarts-hardattack then R1-L2-R2 - its illogical for me. ;P

Thats the real problem, flames on estoc and darksword come from noobs wich never try to simply parry it. - u get free after 2 hits and can usually take 3 or more combos. Not pretty scarry after all.
Only reason estoc is more annoying for me than darksword is phantom range.