To hyper armor fanbabies

[Fentanyl Barbie]

Hyperarmor is bad. It was never good. It just means you are better trading and spamming.

Poise is good, gives room for everyone to breathe.

[Deadly.Crystal.Lizard]

Originally posted by Charoy:

Originally posted by Wonderglue:

Maybe if people played with their toothpicks like they were designed by clip damage and attacking between recovery and animations, they wouldn't have this problem. But no, people want to trade and combo.

Recovery times for UGS in this game are joke. You can R1 > miss > roll with literally 0 risk. Just wait for the other to ♥♥♥♥ up and trade hits via hyper armor.

Trade Souls meta.

as someone using an ugs, i can tell you: hyper armor needs time to kick in. poke them to death, the first frames of the attack are easily interruptable. and talking about r1 recovery time. you can poke and roll away before i even finished my swing. nothing but bad timing will get you killed.

[Charoy]

Originally posted by DeadlyCrystalLizard:

Originally posted by Charoy:

Recovery times for UGS in this game are joke. You can R1 > miss > roll with literally 0 risk. Just wait for the other to ♥♥♥♥ up and trade hits via hyper armor.

Trade Souls meta.

as someone using an ugs, i can tell you: hyper armor needs time to kick in. poke them to death, the first frames of the attack are easily interruptable. and talking about r1 recovery time. you can poke and roll away before i even finished my swing. nothing but bad timing will get you killed.

UGS have enough range to miss R1 > roll without being punished dude. If you try to swing with an UGS in my face the you need to learn about weapon reach.

[Wraith]

This is assuming the reddit post isn`t some fake half baked attempt at a cringe worthy pun. With that said - I`m hoping the reddit post isn`t false. It`ll be nice to not be stunlocked by giant eye balled twits armed with a toothpick.

[Deadly.Crystal.Lizard]

Originally posted by Charoy:

Originally posted by DeadlyCrystalLizard:

as someone using an ugs, i can tell you: hyper armor needs time to kick in. poke them to death, the first frames of the attack are easily interruptable. and talking about r1 recovery time. you can poke and roll away before i even finished my swing. nothing but bad timing will get you killed.

UGS have enough range to miss R1 > roll without being punished dude. If you try to swing with an UGS in my face the you need to learn about weapon reach.

the only real reason you would get hit by that at this range would be that you attacked air. the swing speed is too slow to just catch you, except for catching panick rolls. you have the faster weapon to dodge into range, avoid a trade and do damage before phasing out again.

[MrFluffyWolf]

Originally posted by Helio-:

Originally posted by DELICIOUS SUNNY D:

Hyperarmor is bad. It was never good. It just means you are better trading and spamming.

Poise is good, gives room for everyone to breathe.

Poise will result in mindless R1 mashing where the winner is Havelbabby with his +10 refined Dark Sword.

You mean it will be EXACTLY how it is already, right now?
Wow.

[Sikkens]

Originally posted by Helio-:

Originally posted by DELICIOUS SUNNY D:

Hyperarmor is bad. It was never good. It just means you are better trading and spamming.

Poise is good, gives room for everyone to breathe.

Poise will result in mindless R1 mashing where the winner is Havelbabby with his +10 refined Dark Sword.

Get longer weapon and watch him cry in fear...people that spam R1 ussualy have no idea what else to do. I've seen good players with dark sword and they are no different than any other straight sword,yet way deadlier than R1 spamers.

[Illiaz]

Originally posted by Sikkens:

Originally posted by DELICIOUS SUNNY D:

Hyperarmor is bad. It was never good. It just means you are better trading and spamming.

Poise is good, gives room for everyone to breathe.

Hyper armor is NOT bad,but yet again we see a thread where everyone thinks DS1 when poise is mentioned...

Hyperarmor is cancer. "Oh i see you missed your first attack, ill go in for a quick hit, oh no you attacked as i was coming in, good thing im doing a 2h sprint attack, oh wait its doesnt stagger you and i get extreme stunned, neato toledo, thanks devs for punishing opportunity hits and rewarding spams."

[Vahvi]

Originally posted by Illiaz:

Originally posted by Sikkens:

Hyper armor is NOT bad,but yet again we see a thread where everyone thinks DS1 when poise is mentioned...

Hyperarmor is cancer. "Oh i see you missed your first attack, ill go in for a quick hit, oh no you attacked as i was coming in, good thing im doing a 2h sprint attack, oh wait its doesnt stagger you and i get extreme stunned, neato toledo, thanks devs for punishing opportunity hits and rewarding spams."

Now stack poise with hyperarmor where you can't interrupt any part of their animation, would that just be peachy ...

Hyperarmor alone means there is a window you can stagger them in. Poise stacked with hyperarmor doesn't afford you that option.

Let's say i'm using a UGS, if i swing at you and you dodgeroll through the initial attack and hit me at the right time, then i'm staggered. It's not like i can just whip out a second attack lightning fast and obliterate you.

"All ultra weapons can be staggered during the windup for their attacks."

[Legendary Memer]

Meh... Another baby with katana/straightsowrd failed with R1 spamming against heavy weapon and got rekt. Try harder and don't cry.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Poise being Off for players gets way more baffling to players who do not check google, because of all the "this adds poise!" abilities in the game that flat out do nothing.

That's not necessarily true. A lot of the "Adds Poise" abilities actually give you hyper armor frames. For example: The Talisman special ability, the Mace Special ability, Greatsword Stance attacks.

It says "Poise" and maybe it does mean poise (Perhaps this activates poise during the frames only?) so that effectively "Poise" means your hyper-armor frames. You can be stunned out of a hyper-armor attack, so it's not like you are totally unstunnable.

[Kutya7701]

Hyperarmour is what keeps UltraGreat weapons viable right now. Without it, they would just get staggered out of their attacks by a poke from an estoc. If it were removed, you basically trash all UG weapons.

Not to mention Hyperarmour is actually somewhat unreliable. You don't know exactly at what point the hyperarmour starts, so using it consistently is tricky.

And it's really reasy to deal with people who just R1 spam, because it's super easy to predict those kinds of players and just roll through their attacks till they're out of stamina.

[Helio-]

OP is typical R1 spamming havelbaby who tried to parry only once in his entire Dark Souls career and failed it. Welcome to Dark Souls 3!

[Howyoudoin']

Don't be lazy boy, just look at giand dad.
Learn your timing and range. And poise means " the legend never dies".

[Limp Squirrel]

Originally posted by c3lix:

Originally posted by woodbyte:

Poise should return for no other reason that PvE and PvP should share all the core game mechanics.

Having it off for only PvP is just confusing and not elegant as a system. They should activate it and balance it as best they can.

poise is ON for PvE ?

only for monsters, not for the player. That is why rats stagger havelmoms in PvE

[Fentanyl Barbie]

Originally posted by Yoba Yobushka:

Meh... Another baby with katana/straightsowrd failed with R1 spamming against heavy weapon and got rekt. Try harder and don't cry.

I use a BKGA exclusively and wear firekeeper's armor. Not sure why you people are jumping to silly conclusions, but hyperarmor is my only defense.