Connection to Dark Souls 2? (Spoilers)

[Bible Accurate Clown]

So I haven't beaten Dks3 yet but I see absolutly no connection to Dks2. Everything in Dks3 harkens back to the first game. The people, the creatures, the theme revolving around the bonfires.

I heared there's a daughter of manus at some point in this but I'm probably not far enough. I don't understand the franchise.

1>2 makes sense
1>3 makes sense
2>3 I don't get.

What am I missing? Dark souls 1 told us the rules of this universe and what the deal was with all the various magics and unead curse and why things are the way they are.

What did Dark Souls 2 tell us? Is it just to tell us Manus was a super badass and that his daughters are bastards? It's shallow by comparison. It makes Dks2 sound like it's just an expansion of the DLC from Dks1 instead of enriching the universe as a whole.

[Dam Stark]

Dark souls2 did its own self contained thing, I actualy enjoyed it.

I think (could be wrong) that both games were being developed at the same time by different teams and that is why neither feels like a sequel to the other. Even though dks3 says dks2 happened before it I think what they were going for in dks2 and it makes more sense is that dark souls 2 would be taking place very far into the future after dks1.

And to be fair Im still not actualy sure if lothric is an actual place or just an amalgamation of the lord of cinders homes. It seems awfully well connected to be just an amalgamation but there are items that say things like: when the highwall of lothric appeared.... or describing carthus as a sand kingdom yet there is nothing like that in game.

[Kurf]

All the Dark Souls 2 references are after Irithyll. There's Drakeblood sets and references to Dragon Aerie, along with many Drangleic references.

[Spider]

You can get Lucatieal's set and sword.

[paaaseto]

you can see nashandra's picture in the boreal valley castle, where the silver knights are

[MildlyImpolite]

There is a giant tree in firelink.

[Moisture]

Its almost like they retconned the game but keeped some little pieces for a few items for fan services.
this is the true Darksouls 2.

[Krono]

There are a few references to ds2, but most of them connect to ds1 because it's implied that ds3 takes place in the same geographic area as ds1, while ds2 was in another country.

You find the Fume Ultra Greatsword from ds2.
You can get Lucatiel's armor, weapon and mask
Nashandra's painting is on a wall in Irithyll
There's the Drakeblood armor and weapon

[Kurf]

Originally posted by paaseto:

you can see nashandra's picture in the boreal valley castle, where the silver knights are

That's Gwynevere

[Spider]

Originally posted by Gundyr Halberd Spammer:

Originally posted by paaseto:

you can see nashandra's picture in the boreal valley castle, where the silver knights are

That's Gwynevere

No there's several paintings on the left wall, one of them is Nashandra.

[Krono]

Originally posted by Gundyr Halberd Spammer:

Originally posted by paaseto:

you can see nashandra's picture in the boreal valley castle, where the silver knights are

That's Gwynevere

There's more than one painting there bud. One of them is Nashandra's. it's on the wall on the left when you enter from the sewers, beside a painting that I'm pretty sure is the painted World of Ariamis or however it's spelled

[paaaseto]

Originally posted by Gundyr Halberd Spammer:

Originally posted by paaseto:

you can see nashandra's picture in the boreal valley castle, where the silver knights are

That's Gwynevere

nope, its the big painting you see in drangleic castle (the one that curses you if you are too close, and where the nameless usurper invades you)

[Kurf]

Originally posted by Krono:

Originally posted by Gundyr Halberd Spammer:

That's Gwynevere

There's more than one painting there bud. One of them is Nashandra's it's on the wall on the left when you enter from the sewers, beside a painting that I'm pretty sure is the painted World of Ariamis or however it's spelled

Ariamis was in the Cathedral and literally twice the size of a giant. I also can't find Nashandra, anywhere. I can find Gwynevere though.

[Spider]

Originally posted by Gundyr Halberd Spammer:

Originally posted by Krono:

There's more than one painting there bud. One of them is Nashandra's it's on the wall on the left when you enter from the sewers, beside a painting that I'm pretty sure is the painted World of Ariamis or however it's spelled

Ariamis was in the Cathedral and literally twice the size of a giant. I also can't find Nashandra, anywhere. I can find Gwynevere though.

I believe the painting was covered in ash or damaged some way but there is a smaller painting (than the one in dks2) of her. It's to the left of where the Silver Knight spawned.

[Kurf]

Originally posted by DsR Spider:

Originally posted by Gundyr Halberd Spammer:

Ariamis was in the Cathedral and literally twice the size of a giant. I also can't find Nashandra, anywhere. I can find Gwynevere though.

I believe the painting was covered in ash or damaged some way but there is a smaller painting (than the one in dks2) of her.

That's probably why I never saw it.