About ultra greatswords crap damage

[Helldivers™ 2]

Remind me again why i would use an ultra greatsword when most straight swords do like 100 damage less?

[Corus]

It seems like it's because they are the the only weapons not in the target of fanatic scrublords. Because they are crap.

[SnusHead]

they are better in PvE.

until you get to the point where enemies have infinite poise

( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

[zeb]

AR is 697

[foofighter_ii]

I miss the power of this weapon in DS2. That was my favorite. Here I wasted my titanites.

[Nichtswisser]

Hyper armor and attacks you can not parry.

[❌ Peath]

Straigh Swords only 100 dmg less?

Never saw a straight sword reap 700 dmg in one hit from enemy while sending him flying.

[zeb]

Salty because he's bad with UGS. :^))))

[GrayHound]

Originally posted by Damage Inc:

Originally posted by Pete_Villent:

Straigh Swords only 100 dmg less?

Never saw a straight sword reap 700 dmg in one hit from enemy while sending him flying.

Never saw a UGS do 800 damage either

Im using +10 cathedral sword and it barely does 500 damage

That's your problem then. I use BKGS and it has 607AR at 40/35 (so it would go up to about 620-630 at true quality build) and a charged heavy attack that launches opponents like golf balls and does about 900 damage. It's also pretty easy to land it in PvP as you can delay it however you wish and cannot be interrupted.

I win with it a lot. About 8 out of 10.

[sminkus]

Originally posted by GrayHound:

Originally posted by Damage Inc:

Never saw a UGS do 800 damage either

Im using +10 cathedral sword and it barely does 500 damage

That's your problem then. I use BKGS and it has 607AR at 40/35 (so it would go up to about 620-630 at true quality build) and a charged heavy attack that launches opponents like golf balls and does about 900 damage. It's also pretty easy to land it in PvP as you can delay it however you wish and cannot be interrupted.

BK weapons are special snowflakes in the land of trash weapons. most of the other UGS's except astoras greatsword (excellent weight) are not worth using over something like BKGA, dragonslayers greataxe, yhorm's machete or even straight swords etc.

[Fezzik]

UGS and Great-weapons are, as far as damage is concerned, fine as a whole imo. Some of them could use minor buffs, but as a whole their damages are reasonable.

The reasons they're weak compared to r1 spam weapons are:
-They consume 2-3 times as much stamina per swing
-Don't take out much more stamina when people block with shields than spam weapons
-They are ridiculously heavy and vit gives no curved equip load benefits

Their benefits:
-They look cool af
-If you land a hit, you get a free second hit, you take out ~2/3 their health
-More diverse movesets
-Huge bursts with some weapon arts
-Unparryable attacks
-Hyperarmour
-No optimal hitboxes

So, really, if you know how to take advantage of the mechanics involved with big weapons, the damages aren't nearly as important. They just require more skill and tact to reap the benefits than Straight swords, thrusting weapons, and katanas.

Edit: Added the hitboxes as a perk, since in DS2 you had to hit enemies with certain points on the weapon to do full damage. However, after using halberds and great axes, I haven't seen any differences in damage.

[GrayHound]

Originally posted by Jaffa:

Originally posted by GrayHound:

That's your problem then. I use BKGS and it has 607AR at 40/35 (so it would go up to about 620-630 at true quality build) and a charged heavy attack that launches opponents like golf balls and does about 900 damage. It's also pretty easy to land it in PvP as you can delay it however you wish and cannot be interrupted.

BK weapons are special snowflakes in the land of trash weapons. most of the other UGS's except astoras greatsword (excellent weight) are not worth using over omething like BKGA, dragonslayers greataxe, yhorm's machete or even straight swords etc.

Yeah, I agree that the other UGS I used have almost funny damage compared to straight swords. I think FUGS pre-nerf was what all of them should be.

[❌ Peath]

Originally posted by Damage Inc:

Originally posted by Pete_Villent:

Straigh Swords only 100 dmg less?

Never saw a straight sword reap 700 dmg in one hit from enemy while sending him flying.

Never saw a UGS do 800 damage either

Im using +10 cathedral sword and it barely does 500 damage

BKG +4, charged R2 deals 690dmg. Sweet and lovely.

[Slimy Slug]

You obviously haven't tried the lothric knight great sword.

[Sa†o]

Originally posted by Pete_Villent:

Originally posted by Damage Inc:

Never saw a UGS do 800 damage either

Im using +10 cathedral sword and it barely does 500 damage

BKG +4, charged R2 deals 690dmg. Sweet and lovely.

My darksword does 511 on r1 spam.....2h r2 deals 790ish

Edit: 45/45 str dex refined B/B scaling

[zeb]

Originally posted by Damage Inc:

Originally posted by GrayHound:

That's your problem then. I use BKGS and it has 607AR at 40/35 (so it would go up to about 620-630 at true quality build) and a charged heavy attack that launches opponents like golf balls and does about 900 damage. It's also pretty easy to land it in PvP as you can delay it however you wish and cannot be interrupted.

I win with it a lot. About 8 out of 10.

I'm sorry but you cant discuss UGS damage as a whole with the argument that the strongest UGS does enough damage to justify using

I think you're just an idiot.