Is derk 3 a prequel or sequel ._.

[Afroman726]

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[Clutch]

it is a sequel you know it because some characters from DS 1 and 2 are death

[Cage]

its a sequel but not as a direct sequel like harry potter 1-7, new DS game takes place millenia after the previous one. DS2 is set in a kingdon called Drangleic, geographically its distant to DS3's Lothric or DS1's Lordran, like Skyrim and Morrowind from TSE. However Lothric is based on Lordran as you progress you may find out that Arno Londo is part of the kingdom which only the caslte has been preserved after centuries.

[Berserker_Woden]

how is this even a debate....

[アゼム]

This is 100% a sequel and it is made obvious multiple times. I don't know why people are dancing around this fact

[Black Snake]

Originally posted by PacotheFriendlyTaco:

This is 100% a sequel and it is made obvious multiple times. I don't know why people are dancing around this fact

Because the items don't make sense. things that were destroyed in dark souls 2 are suddenly back to normal in dark souls 3. And how is Annor Londo castle still standing if the world is shifting around and many kingdoms have risen and fallen. How is Gwyndolin alive if we killed her in dark souls 1. How is Andre still alive?

[Soulkey]

Pre-Sequel.

Wait for Dark Souls 3: Scholar of the Last Sin Edition.

[Morphic]

Originally posted by Black Snake:

Originally posted by PacotheFriendlyTaco:

This is 100% a sequel and it is made obvious multiple times. I don't know why people are dancing around this fact

Because the items don't make sense. things that were destroyed in dark souls 2 are suddenly back to normal in dark souls 3. And how is Annor Londo castle still standing if the world is shifting around and many kingdoms have risen and fallen. How is Gwyndolin alive if we killed her in dark souls 1. How is Andre still alive?

1. What things are "suddenly back to normal"?

2. Anor Londo is still standing ... but it's in a state of immense decay, just look around you! There are some things that are clear someone was desperately trying to maintain them but it was futile. Also other areas show distinct decay; Smouldering Lake is most likely the old Great Swamp/Blight Town/Chaos Ruins from DS1. There's "allegdedly" Quelaana's Corspe with her Tome + a Talisman made from her hair. A few other places too but can't recall the exact zones that might be connected or referring to. Though Duke's Archives are back as well.

3. Gwyndolin was a Man not a Woman. Also Gwyndolin isn't alive, he was slowly eaten alive by Aldritch. Aldritch's Soul states as much, plus he was a Devourer of the Gods. This basically means any God that would have been alive, Gwyndolin, possibly Gwynavere, Priscilla etc. is alluded to being consumed by Aldritch. From decided to have a scape goat for plot holes I guess.

4. If you played and paid attention in Dark Souls 1 you can see that Andre is alluded to being a Smith "God" or Demi-God. Basically a few items + Smith Flames allude that Andre is part of a race of beings that surpass Mortal limits and allow them to live a very long time. How he managed to hide from Aldritch and where he was in DS2, who knows?

Therefore Dark Souls 3 is a Sequel to DS 1 and 2 but takes place many, many years after DS 2. Though I'm sure there'll be a DLC or set of DLCs that continue the story/whatever so From can milk us for what they can and add/change the Balance a bit. All to gain $$$ to fuel their next project; Demonborne Souls: Apocalypse of Tears; Making Magic EZ mode again while creating an even more convoluted Story. Buy the Season Pass now for $29.99!

[Traeus]

It's "story rich" we don't know yet.

[MrFluffyWolf]

It's clearly a sequel.
DS1 was the first cycle, the end of the first age of fire. Because Gwyn was stll alive. It's impossible for DS3 to be before DS1 if the undead curse is even a thing.
As for DS2... ehh.. there's references to it, so I'd say it takes place after DS2. That, and the whole idea that the world is kind of going into heat-death, and it takes 5 lords of cinder to re-link the fire kinda implies it's been hundereds and hundereds of cycles, and the first flame is dying out.

[Black Snake]

Originally posted by Setzway:

1. What things are "suddenly back to normal"?

2. Anor Londo is still standing ... but it's in a state of immense decay, just look around you! There are some things that are clear someone was desperately trying to maintain them but it was futile.

3. Gwyndolin was a Man not a Woman. Also Gwyndolin isn't alive, he was slowly eaten alive by Aldritch. Aldritch's Soul states as much, plus he was a Devourer of the Gods. This basically means any God that would have been alive, Gwyndolin, possibly Gwynavere etc. is alluded to being consumed by Aldritch. From decided to have a scape goat for plot holes I guess.

4. If you played and paid attention in Dark Souls 1 you can see that Andre is alluded to being a Smith "God" or Demi-God. Basically a few items + Smith Flames allude that Andre is part of a race of beings that surpass Mortal limits and allow them to leave a very long time. How he managed to hide from Aldritch and where he was in DS2, who knows?

1. Rings and Armor that was faded or broken in dark souls 2. (Old Leo Ring) are suddenly back in pristine condition in DS3.

2. I'll agree it does look destroyed. But I feel it would not exist where it is. the world has been shifting so ridiculously that annor londo is no longer at the top of the world like it was in dark souls 1. I have a hard time believing that it wouldn't have crumbled completely if this truly does take place thousands of years in the future.

3. I know he's not a woman, but he was raised as a female so that what I am calling him. Either way, he/she was killed in dark souls 1 as a side quest. He/She shouldn't exist in this story line anymore. Unless the side quest was not cannon.

4. I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know.

[Black Snake]

Originally posted by MrFluffyWolf:

It's clearly a sequel.
DS1 was the first cycle, the end of the first age of fire. Because Gwyn was stll alive. It's impossible for DS3 to be before DS1 if the undead curse is even a thing.
As for DS2... ehh.. there's references to it, so I'd say it takes place after DS2. That, and the whole idea that the world is kind of going into heat-death, and it takes 5 lords of cinder to re-link the fire kinda implies it's been hundereds and hundereds of cycles, and the first flame is dying out.

I think people are asking if this is a sequel to 2, not DS1. It feels like Dark Souls 2 takes place years after 3.

[Morphic]

Originally posted by Black Snake:

1. Rings and Armor that was faded or broken in dark souls 2. (Old Leo Ring) are suddenly back in pristine condition in DS3.

Other rings have been alluded to being duplicates, like the [Type]Bite rings and such. The Armors you sort of got me there, like the Brass Armor. However these same armors have different descriptions. For example the Lucatiel Mask(It talks about Lucatiel and "a woman that desperately wanted someone to remember her name") and Mirrah Armor, the aforementioned Brass Armor, Havel's Armor(was in DS2) and the like. Old Sorcerers and "Original" Pyromancer's(now called Conjurerer's or something) have different descriptions talking about how they were relics/dupes too. So, to me, Iconic/Unique Armor like the Brass Armor is still there because "Magically Enhanced!". With the Lucatiel Mask desc. to me shows definitive proof DS 3 is after DS 2.

Originally posted by Black Snake:

2. I'll agree it does look destroyed. But I feel it would not exist where it is. the world has been shifting so ridiculously that annor londo is no longer at the top of the world like it was in dark souls 1. I have a hard time believing that it wouldn't have crumbled completely if this truly does take place thousands of years in the future.

Well we don't know if it's "thousands" of years. However maybe it's the Pangea Effect? I mean there are a crapton of Ravines and Chasms in DS3's areas moreso than any area I've seen in previous titles. Sure I'd expect it to be more crumbled/decayed/destroyed too. However Londo was know as the "Land of the Gods" and built by Giant's and such. Since, apparently, Giants are nigh immortal with lifespans, I'd imagine they could build whole cities that can last just as long.

Originally posted by Black Snake:

3. I know he's not a woman, but he was raised as a female so that what I am calling him. Either way, he/she was killed in dark souls 1 as a side quest. He/She shouldn't exist in this story line anymore. Unless the side quest was not cannon.

Fair enough, I didn't know if you knew plus I'm not as sensitive to Gender issues as others. In regards to the side quest ... It was a completely optional side quest. Plus it was basically a paradox; if you killed Gwyndolin he was impersonating Gwynavere, if you didn't then Gwynavere was actually there. If you killed Gwynavere you ticked off 'dolin and wants to hunt you down.

I mean with that kind of logic, if I killed Patches or Andre or whoever in DS 1 then they shouldn't appear in DS 3. Speaking of which, how the Hell is Patches still alive? He should be long dead if he was a Human, even Logan died of old age and he was a crazed wizard. Though based on the Black Leather Armor description I'm going to believe Patches has the "Dread Pirate Roberts" effect.

Not to mention if you play the DLC in Dark Souls 1, you create a Time Paradox/Self Fulfilling Prophecy with Sif and Artorias. So ... Yeah, Timey Wimey Wibbly Wobbly Stuff.

Originally posted by Black Snake:

4. I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know.

No Problem! There's quite a few things I've missed too ever since Demon's Souls lol. The Souls(borne) games are too ambiguous IMO. It's part of their charm but sometimes I wish there was a "No, that thing really isn't real!" NPC that you can ask questions.

[Black Snake]

I kindof wish DS3 would have paid more mind to DS2 instead of only focusing on the first game. Drangleic had so much involvement in the plot. Especially in SotFS, vendrick actually found the cure to the hollowing process (Which may be why we don't hollow in Dark Souls 3, except by choice) I feel like if DS3 gave as much service to both games equally it wouldn't have felt like such a tribute to DS1.

[Traeus]

Originally posted by Black Snake:

I kindof wish DS3 would have paid more mind to DS2 instead of only focusing on the first game. Drangleic had so much involvement in the plot. Especially in SotFS, vendrick actually found the cure to the hollowing process (Which may be why we don't hollow in Dark Souls 3, except by choice) I feel like if DS3 gave as much service to both games equally it wouldn't have felt like such a tribute to DS1.

We don't hollow beacuse we don't have the curse like the dark sigils that you can get and then you start to hollow.


Unkindled are a different type of undead from what i know.

[Morphic]

Originally posted by Black Snake:

I kindof wish DS3 would have paid more mind to DS2 instead of only focusing on the first game. Drangleic had so much involvement in the plot. Especially in SotFS, vendrick actually found the cure to the hollowing process (Which may be why we don't hollow in Dark Souls 3, except by choice) I feel like if DS3 gave as much service to both games equally it wouldn't have felt like such a tribute to DS1.

I agree. Plus there have been a few nods to Demon's Souls as well. Though Stormruler made me literally scream: "What?! The Hell is going on here?!" at 2am. Which makes me generally throw my hands up and yell "Doctor, wha'd you do to my games?!".