Best dark miracle chime

[Kaleus010]

Ik that for sorceries it's the izalith staff and I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS FOR PYROMANCIES but what is the best chime/talisman for dark miracles

[Phoenix]

Caitha's and Yorshka's chime have the best miracle scaling at A. Caitha's chime seems to have overall the best stats, but that doesn't say much, unlike Dark Souls 2 the stats for the chimes and staves are really weird and confusing to me. There's no stat indicator for dark or lightning damage. The only thing you can really go by is the spell buff and miracle scaling. So Id say use Caitha's Chime.

If you're a hybrid I would also recommend the Crystal Chime for convenience if you dont like switching, the difference in damage output seems to be not that big however you can't use dark spells with it, the court sorcerer's staff and ofcourse the pyromancy flame are also useful. When it comes to miracles you should lay focus on the rings you're wearing instead. Ofcourse the chime being +10 is important, but the rings you're wearing are just as, if not more important. Grass crest shield is also great for spell spamming.

In PvE you can be a glass cannon with Morne's Ring / Suns first born / Lightning clutch or Dark Clutch ring and Chloranthy ring or Sage's ring for max damage. With a sacred chime on my miracle build I can do about 2k in close combat against the soul of cinder using a basic +10 sacred chime and sunlight spear. While I don't really recommend pvp combat with miracles you can replace the clutch ring with sage's ring or Chloranty ring.

Untill the DLC's come out I honestly don't really see the dark miracles being that viable. You only have dead again as ranged attack if Im not mistaken. Black fire orb does the same job much better if you ask me.

[Kaleus010]

Thanks for the actually caring about the answer :)

As for the court sorceror, my izalith would be better, as I'm going 40/40 int faith so it will scale with both

I'll probably go with crystal bc it scales with both, thanks for the help tho

As for the attacks, there are actually quite a few. There's affinity for homing, and deacons and aldrich faithful covenant get you ranged attacks, but they are slightly underpowered yeah I just want to try it

[Herbalacious]

Consider the Sunless Talisman. Also A scaling with faith and like Caitha's Chime adds a bonus to Dark. Also you get unfaltering prayer..which can finish people off if you wanna use the Dark Scythe attack miracle I forget the name right now.

[Skeleton]

As mentioned, Caitha > Sunless > others.
For specific values at varying INT/FAI levels, see this chart:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/17/1461944282-catalysts.png

[Skeleton]

Caitha's Chime. Easy to acquire as well.

[Kaleus010]

Originally posted by Skeleton:

As mentioned, Caitha > Sunless > others.
For specific values at varying INT/FAI levels, see this chart:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/17/1461944282-catalysts.png

Thanks mate that helps with all my builds as well as that lol :)