Is Yorshka Chime the best for 60 FTH?

[Torllay]

As the question say.

[The Everlasting Stillness ☯]

Yes, but it does not have hyper armour L2, which means that in most cases, it will be harder to deal full damage with it.

[Torllay]

Originally posted by Gehrman:

Yes, but it does not have hyper armour L2, which means that in most cases, it will be harder to deal full damage with it.

Saw that. Even Saint Talisman is not the best for ha, is the sun talisman. But i was asking for pve, in pvp sun Talisman is the best.

[The_K00lDude]

yeah yorshka chime is best for pure 60 points in faith, if you had some int the crystal chime would have been better as it scalles from both int and faith, though you can always check by getting the item and checking weapon buff,

with 45 faith the best chime for me is the "talisman" no idea why when the scalling is an A but the yorshka is an S so you'd think that be better, but hey some of this games scalling is pretty weird!

[The Everlasting Stillness ☯]

Originally posted by Torllay:

Originally posted by Gehrman:

Yes, but it does not have hyper armour L2, which means that in most cases, it will be harder to deal full damage with it.

Saw that. Even Saint Talisman is not the best for ha, is the sun talisman. But i was asking for pve, in pvp sun Talisman is the best.

You often need the hyper armour for PvE for many bosses and enemies if you want to do full damage - i.e. Sulyvahn, Gundyr, Soul of Cinder, Oceiros, Abyss Watchers, Twin Princes, even Deacons can be extremely annoying by interrupting you every single time, which only leaves you with ranged casts that do pathetic damage, because they (sans Deacons) are incredibly aggressive and leave you little time to cast before exhibiting their infinite stamina spam - trivial for a melee character, but miracles with no Hyper Armour is a chore.
As for enemies, any of them with functional DkS1 poise, R1 knights in Irithyll, Lothric Knights, ANY time you use Wrath of the Gods, most enemies in Archcancer peak, and many more are also a pain to get a cast off on without getting interrupted.
I don't care about miracles in PvP - they are a joke, so I was not talking about it.

[Torllay]

Originally posted by Gehrman:

Originally posted by Torllay:

Saw that. Even Saint Talisman is not the best for ha, is the sun talisman. But i was asking for pve, in pvp sun Talisman is the best.

You often need the hyper armour for PvE for many bosses and enemies if you want to do full damage - i.e. Sulyvahn, Gundyr, Soul of Cinder, Oceiros, Abyss Watchers, Twin Princes, even Deacons can be extremely annoying by interrupting you every single time, which only leaves you with ranged casts that do pathetic damage, because they (sans Deacons) are incredibly aggressive and leave you little time to cast before exhibiting their infinite stamina spam - trivial for a melee character, but miracles with no Hyper Armour is a chore.
As for enemies, any of them with functional DkS1 poise, R1 knights in Irithyll, Lothric Knights, ANY time you use Wrath of the Gods, most enemies in Archcancer peak, and many more are also a pain to get a cast off on without getting interrupted.
I don't care about miracles in PvP - they are a joke, so I was not talking about it.

Hey, calm down. I wanna do the best damage i can, and if you don't know how to cast without be interrupt just be melee. Thanks, and, btw, i got sun, saint e yorhsa +10.
So i can change in front of situation.

[8kPKu-comfE]

Originally posted by The_K00lDude:

yeah yorshka chime is best for pure 60 points in faith, if you had some int the crystal chime would have been better as it scalles from both int and faith, though you can always check by getting the item and checking weapon buff,

with 45 faith the best chime for me is the "talisman" no idea why when the scalling is an A but the yorshka is an S so you'd think that be better, but hey some of this games scalling is pretty weird!

It does have a higher magadjust, but doesn't the miracles scale only with the faith side of it, and the sorceries the INT side?

[The_K00lDude]

Originally posted by zacUcCCOoRw:

Originally posted by The_K00lDude:

yeah yorshka chime is best for pure 60 points in faith, if you had some int the crystal chime would have been better as it scalles from both int and faith, though you can always check by getting the item and checking weapon buff,

with 45 faith the best chime for me is the "talisman" no idea why when the scalling is an A but the yorshka is an S so you'd think that be better, but hey some of this games scalling is pretty weird!

It does have a higher magadjust, but doesn't the miracles scale only with the faith side of it, and the sorceries the INT side?

if you have both int and faith they scale together alot of the time making the buff alot stronger than a single S scaling.
so for instance:
I have 45 faith and 25 int
I equip an weapon that scales S with only faith i could get 190 spell buff
ok now I equip a weapon that goes from C in faith and int the scaling on both are added together i believe and you could get 201 spell buff instead

Like I said though it's best to get the item and check the base spell buf if it's better than the others base then thats best for you.

[8kPKu-comfE]

Kinda wrong. I just tested.
Raw rapier+4 (169 base damage)
Crystal chime +5 (210)
Caitha's Chime +5 (200)
32 INT/39 FTH
Dark blade/Lightning blade miracle

210 magadjust from crystal chime + dark blade brought the total weapon damage(AR) up to 323.
200 magadjust from Caitha's chime + dark blade brought it up to a total of 328.

Crystal chime, raw rapier +4, lightning blade miracle = 318 damage
Caitha's chime, raw rapier +4, lightning blade miracle = 323 damage.
Crystal chime is better as a hybrid, but if you want to go balls to the wall with miracles, use Yorshka's chime or whatever miracle catalyst that gets the highest pure faith magadjust. Unless dark miracles are your thing, in which you should go with both as dark miracles/catalysts scale with both.

[jrubz]

It might be... but the real question is... did you kill her?

[Torllay]

Originally posted by JRubz:

It might be... but the real question is... did you kill her?

In the past ng, as all npc.

[jrubz]

Originally posted by Torllay:

Originally posted by JRubz:

It might be... but the real question is... did you kill her?

In the past ng, as all npc.

-_-, ok, it was an NPC wipe before a NG run, I can call that killing just for weapon gain.

[The_K00lDude]

Originally posted by zacUcCCOoRw:

Kinda wrong. I just tested.
Raw rapier+4 (169 base damage)
Crystal chime +5 (210)
Caitha's Chime +5 (200)
32 INT/39 FTH
Dark blade/Lightning blade miracle

210 magadjust from crystal chime + dark blade brought the total weapon damage(AR) up to 323.
200 magadjust from Caitha's chime + dark blade brought it up to a total of 328.

Crystal chime, raw rapier +4, lightning blade miracle = 318 damage
Caitha's chime, raw rapier +4, lightning blade miracle = 323 damage.
Crystal chime is better as a hybrid, but if you want to go balls to the wall with miracles, use Yorshka's chime or whatever miracle catalyst that gets the highest pure faith magadjust. Unless dark miracles are your thing, in which you should go with both as dark miracles/catalysts scale with both.

so the spell buff is higher yet you get less? :( but i guess now we know

[8kPKu-comfE]

Originally posted by The_K00lDude:

Originally posted by zacUcCCOoRw:

Kinda wrong. I just tested.
Raw rapier+4 (169 base damage)
Crystal chime +5 (210)
Caitha's Chime +5 (200)
32 INT/39 FTH
Dark blade/Lightning blade miracle

210 magadjust from crystal chime + dark blade brought the total weapon damage(AR) up to 323.
200 magadjust from Caitha's chime + dark blade brought it up to a total of 328.

Crystal chime, raw rapier +4, lightning blade miracle = 318 damage
Caitha's chime, raw rapier +4, lightning blade miracle = 323 damage.
Crystal chime is better as a hybrid, but if you want to go balls to the wall with miracles, use Yorshka's chime or whatever miracle catalyst that gets the highest pure faith magadjust. Unless dark miracles are your thing, in which you should go with both as dark miracles/catalysts scale with both.

so the spell buff is higher yet you get less? :( but i guess now we know

more like the crystal chime uses the faith scaling for miracles and the int one for sorceries.