Bloodborne was fine with no poise

[iLuvKoRn]

because it had no equip load to limit big weapons & hyper armor

[Cooman]

and the fact that bloodborne has the worst pvp of the series?

[MortalitasBorealis]

Originally posted by ocoo:

and the fact that bloodborne has the worst pvp of the series?

Isn't that because of the guns and the ret*rded ranged parries though? From what I've seen the melee dueling is fine.

[iLuvKoRn]

Originally posted by ocoo:

and the fact that bloodborne has the worst pvp of the series?

It was okay I guess
DS1 had broken pvp.
DS2 has good pvp.

[The Everlasting Stillness ☯]

Originally posted by MortalitasBorealis:

Originally posted by ocoo:

and the fact that bloodborne has the worst pvp of the series?

Isn't that because of the guns and the ret*rded ranged parries though? From what I've seen the melee dueling is fine.

No, it's not. Everyone can heal between 20 and 32 times, rally means you can easily mash R1 to victory with something fast, the connection there is beyond garbage, often way worse than any of the Souls titles (though when it's good, it's VERY GOOD), people spamming their gun after quickstep with Clawmark runes for one-shots everywhere, awful phantom range, BS meta cheeses like Rakuyo L2 L2 L2 L2 L2 with FIre Paper and high pecentage gems, and the godawful blood gem system. It is also impossible to PvP anywhere reliably except two designated areas, otherwise you can't invade unless the host has phantoms in their world (which leads to stupid twinks with OP gems two-shotting people, fun!).

[Saveurope]

Bloodborne is Awesome.

[Cooman]

Originally posted by MortalitasBorealis:

Originally posted by ocoo:

and the fact that bloodborne has the worst pvp of the series?

Isn't that because of the guns and the ret*rded ranged parries though? From what I've seen the melee dueling is fine.

No

Originally posted by Lucais:

Originally posted by ocoo:

and the fact that bloodborne has the worst pvp of the series?

It was okay I guess
DS1 had broken pvp.
DS2 has good pvp.

bloodborne is widely accepted for having the worst pvp as a FROM game, bloodborne is not a souls game so your argument is like saying witcher 3 is fine without poise.

two separate games.

Originally posted by Gehrman:

Originally posted by MortalitasBorealis:

Isn't that because of the guns and the ret*rded ranged parries though? From what I've seen the melee dueling is fine.

No, it's not. Everyone can heal between 20 and 32 times, rally means you can easily mash R1 to victory with something fast, the connection there is beyond garbage, often way worse than any of the Souls titles (though when it's good, it's VERY GOOD), people spamming their gun after quickstep with Clawmark runes for one-shots everywhere, awful phantom range, BS meta cheeses like Rakuyo L2 L2 L2 L2 L2 with FIre Paper and high pecentage gems, and the godawful blood gem system. It is also impossible to PvP anywhere reliably except two designated areas, otherwise you can't invade unless the host has phantoms in their world (which leads to stupid twinks with OP gems two-shotting people, fun!).

this, chalice dungeon gem farming is cancer, I enjoyed bloodborne, but when someone invaded me and my lvl80 quality build with 40 vit got one shot by a katana running r1 I figured out that my 400 AR ludwigs only did a small amount of damage to them....

why? because they spent hundreds of hours farming those 30% odd gems, literially hundreds of hours of farming and you can take a 600 AR weapon into sl30 Combat and one shot anyone.

PvE is 'ok' but pvp is utter trash, the spamming of heals, the spamming of gunshots for that lucky v.atk, spam quickstep over and over and over and over....

no thanks.

[Cooman]

Originally posted by Lord Reality:

Bloodborne is Awesome.

PVE is good, PvP is absolutely terrible.

not sure why we're discussing this on a dark souls 3 forum.

you gonna compare Bloodborne's pvp to armored core next?

[The Everlasting Stillness ☯]

Originally posted by ocoo:

Originally posted by Lord Reality:

Bloodborne is Awesome.

PVE is good, PvP is absolutely terrible.

not sure why we're discussing this on a dark souls 3 forum.

you gonna compare Bloodborne's pvp to armored core next?

Armoured Core confirmed worst Souls game, has no poise, no equip load, no R1-spam. 0/10.

[Cooman]

Originally posted by Gehrman:

Originally posted by ocoo:

PVE is good, PvP is absolutely terrible.

not sure why we're discussing this on a dark souls 3 forum.

you gonna compare Bloodborne's pvp to armored core next?

Armoured Core confirmed worst Souls game, has no poise, no equip load, no R1-spam. 0/10.

bloodborne confirmed worst core game, no tank or spider legs, no rocket launchers, no flying combat.

[iLuvKoRn]

Originally posted by ocoo:

I was just saying that Bloodborne is fine without poise because there isn't equip load.
Bloodborne is as comparative as Demon's Souls, both games are similar to Dark Souls.
I denounce my position with Bloodborne's PvP by saying that I didn't actually do PvP in it.
The PvE in Bloodborne was amazing though.

[Cooman]

Originally posted by Lucais:

Originally posted by ocoo:

I was just saying that Bloodborne is fine without poise because there isn't equip load.
Bloodborne is as comparative as Demon's Souls, both games are similar to Dark Souls.
I denounce my position with Bloodborne's PvP by saying that I didn't actually do PvP in it.
The PvE in Bloodborne was amazing though.

And pve was amazing in Dark souls?

bloodborne is a different game, you don't roll you quickstep, you have huge huge stamina pools that recharge instantly, healing items can be held by the dozens.

regardless, dark souls is dark souls and should have poise, bloodborne didn't have poise, but dark souls does, it's merely broken

also bloodborne armor ratings meant nothing, in ds1 and ds2 wearing heavy armor actually reduced damage a good bit

[iLuvKoRn]

Originally posted by ocoo:

Originally posted by Lucais:

I was just saying that Bloodborne is fine without poise because there isn't equip load.
Bloodborne is as comparative as Demon's Souls, both games are similar to Dark Souls.
I denounce my position with Bloodborne's PvP by saying that I didn't actually do PvP in it.
The PvE in Bloodborne was amazing though.

And pve was amazing in Dark souls?

bloodborne is a different game, you don't roll you quickstep, you have huge huge stamina pools that recharge instantly, healing items can be held by the dozens.

regardless, dark souls is dark souls and should have poise, bloodborne didn't have poise, but dark souls does, it's merely broken

also bloodborne armor ratings meant nothing, in ds1 and ds2 wearing heavy armor actually reduced damage a good bit

Well yeah, they're different IP's with their own properties.
They also have highly comparative similarities between eachother.
Evasions with i-frames, etc etc.

Bloodborne's armor wasn't that bad because there wasn't equip load.
Dark Souls 1 & 2 give you what's what for your armor's worth, at the cost of equip load.