about andre and the other npcs from ds1

[AMABATUKAM]

why are they still alive? ds3's timeline is after ds2 of course because of some evidences like creighton's axe, and ds2 is hundreds of years after ds1.. can someone explain?

[MAGNUS WAKER]

It's possible they fought the curse and have extended lives due to their willpower against it. Or they are illusions.

[Captain Striker (Empo)]

magic, time traveling and overal non-existant story giving way to plotholes

[The Judge]

Undead truly dies after he losses it's purpose, but Andre is a smith, and he never lost his purpose and kept forging weapons for the likes of ya!

[Zeddicuus]

they are descendants who were given the same names to honor their ancestors from DS1?

[thebigkabooa]

Originally posted by Son:

Undead truly dies after he losses it's purpose, but Andre is a smith, and he never lost his purpose and kept forging weapons for the likes of ya!

I'd go with this.

Undead have two outcomes: Hollowing and true death. Hollowing occurs when you lose your humanity. Whether you truly die in this case is up to debate, but based on the examples we're given (like Horace) that seems to be the case.

The 'curse of undeath' as its called seems to end once an undead fulfills a purpose, in the same vein that a ghost has 'unfinished business', the purpose is what keeps an Undead going and aids them in maintaining their humanity.

While it's never explicitly stated, my speculation is that Andre sees himself as the smith to those that kindle the flame, and thus will never die while the age of fire persists.

This sort of rounds back to the player in DS1 and 2. We are, after all, an undead, and no matter how much we die we keep coming back, until we quit for good, losing our purpose. :P

[IIIIlllIIIII]

Parallel Universes

[MAGNUS WAKER]

Originally posted by RueiAn:

Parallel Universes

Another possibility given Solaire's notes.

[Jäger]

Originally posted by Son:

Undead truly dies after he losses it's purpose, but Andre is a smith, and he never lost his purpose and kept forging weapons for the likes of ya!

What about the big giant guy in Anord Londo? Looks like something awful happened to the giants. But they are not the barbaric golems from DS2, they are something else. Haven't read stuff about the lore yet but this is strange.

Originally posted by mAGNUSwAKER:

Originally posted by RueiAn:

Parallel Universes

Another possibility given Solaire's notes.

Interesting. I always try to know if one or many characters were reincarnated.

[Skeleton]

Originally posted by U dieded (⌐□_□):

What about the big giant guy in Anord Londo? Looks like something awful happened to the giants. But they are not the barbaric golems from DS2, they are something else. Haven't read stuff about the lore yet but this is strange.

Only humans can become Undead, since they're affiliated with Dark. Since Giants can't get the curse, they're mortal. Not sure what happened to the rest of the giants in Anor Londo, but it might have something to do with Gwyndolin dying and Aldrich moving into the cathedral.

Originally posted by U dieded (⌐□_□):

Interesting. I always try to know if one or many characters were reincarnated.

In DS1, 2, and 3, all my main characters were sorcerers named Aleister ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

[Jäger]

Originally posted by Skeleton:

Only humans can become Undead, since they're affiliated with Dark. Since Giants can't get the curse, they're mortal. Not sure what happened to the rest of the giants in Anor Londo, but it might have something to do with Gwyndolin dying and Aldrich moving into the cathedral.

Oh i see, completely forgot about the hollow curse.
Maybe Aldrich ate their souls. I don't know what they are all doing in Irythill . Maybe they actually worked for the Lordran kingdom? The blacksmith was apparently living with all the knights around him. And the big place within the Cathedral is obviously built to cointain giants, a bit like if they were pets or defenders.

Originally posted by Skeleton:

In DS1, 2, and 3, all my main characters were sorcerers named Aleister.

Mr Crowley, what went on with your head...

[Arngrim]

Originally posted by ToiletShrimp:

why are they still alive? ds3's timeline is after ds2 of course because of some evidences like creighton's axe, and ds2 is hundreds of years after ds1.. can someone explain?

Given there are multiple pararell worlds and time being convoluted pretty much anything is possible.

[DwzLT]

Cycles ... used to need only one person to link the fire now you need 5 lords ... so the cycles have repeated themselves over and over.

Also, the ladder master gylligan (sp?) is in profaned capital dead

[Skeleton]

Originally posted by U dieded (⌐□_□):

Oh i see, completely forgot about the hollow curse.
Maybe Aldrich ate their souls. I don't know what they are all doing in Irythill . Maybe they actually worked for the Lordran kingdom? The blacksmith was apparently living with all the knights around him. And the big place within the Cathedral is obviously built to cointain giants, a bit like if they were pets or defenders.

My guess: Giants are a race native to Lordran/Lothric, and they're usually kept as a slave class due to low INT and high STR. A few of them can be "civilised" though, like the Smith or Gough, but even as a Knight he was discriminated against.

"A helm crafted especially for the honorable Hawkeye Gough,
only the eye holes were packed with tree resin
by those who dismissed Gough as a brutish giant."

Originally posted by U dieded (⌐□_□):

Mr Crowley, what went on with your head...

Absolutely nothing. By the way, did you know that I can talk to the dead?