Prisoner's chain question.

[Stinky Melvin]

So you take bonus damage, but it gives you a stat that increases defense.

Does it just break even?..

[BlazeRomulus]

nope, you take more damage based on a percentage, so it won't even out regardless of what you do.

[BlazeRomulus]

Not sure myself really, someone suggested it would be great for low levels but unless you trade it not sure how you can get it early.

[Tyler McRae]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Brandington:

is it worth it to even try this ring or is it a way to just die faster.

It's got -way- more buffs than before, but it's defense reduction's on par with the various Clutch rings. I'd suggest against using it, honestly. Same with the clutch rings. They're not very useful.

[Stinky Melvin]

ANOTHER QUESTION. If I use ring of steel protection, does it help?

Ring of steel protection and the defense from the prisoner's chain.

[SLV | Arti of the Abyss]

It gives you 15 SL. Paired with Ring of steel protection, your physical protection remains almost the same.

It's a pretty nice boost, if you're planning to spend Souls in other stats

[BlazeRomulus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Aka | I was born in a ladle.:

ANOTHER QUESTION. If I use ring of steel protection, does it help?

Ring of steel protection and the defense from the prisoner's chain.

Nah someone already tried that ^ ring of steel defense gets added, then the prisoner's chain will remove 10% total of that defense that you have.

[ WraithGear]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ch3st3r08:

It gives you 15 SL. Paired with Ring of steel protection, your physical protection remains almost the same.

It's a pretty nice boost, if you're planning to spend Souls in other stats

nope the steel protection ring gives you like 2% damage reduction, the clutch rings and the prisoners chain make you take 15% extra damage

the defenses on the stats screen dont equal out in practice.

damnnohtmnl did a thing on this

[Shiny Bidoof]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von  WraithGear:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ch3st3r08:

It gives you 15 SL. Paired with Ring of steel protection, your physical protection remains almost the same.

It's a pretty nice boost, if you're planning to spend Souls in other stats

nope the steel protection ring gives you like 2% damage reduction, the clutch rings and the prisoners chain make you take 15% extra damage

the defenses on the stats screen dont equal out in practice.

damnnohtmnl did a thing on this

he also did a good video on how to make a salad

[Daredeviler_21]

as a user of the chain myself, it's a must have, usually. The reduction is 10%, but the 5 levels in vit realistically make the penalty only 1%. However, the chain does make you receive 1.4x more damage from backstabs and ripostes, so be wary of that

[MundM]

I think it depends on what kind of damage you think you have to tank next. I guess the chain only lowers physical defenses, right? So elementary would not be affected and you benefit from the additional hp.

[TrueArchery]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Daredeviler_21:

as a user of the chain myself, it's a must have, usually. The reduction is 10%, but the 5 levels in vit realistically make the penalty only 1%. However, the chain does make you receive 1.4x more damage from backstabs and ripostes, so be wary of that

Pretty sure the Life Ring would be a much better investment for duels.

[BlazeRomulus]

The chain actually takes what damage you took and multiplies it. So yeah, having more defense would help to a point, but whatever damage you take is multiplied by a small number.

[Daredeviler_21]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von TrueArchery:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Daredeviler_21:

as a user of the chain myself, it's a must have, usually. The reduction is 10%, but the 5 levels in vit realistically make the penalty only 1%. However, the chain does make you receive 1.4x more damage from backstabs and ripostes, so be wary of that

Pretty sure the Life Ring would be a much better investment for duels.

From what I've seen, chain is a stronger ring of favor

[Dura]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ch3st3r08:

It gives you 15 SL. Paired with Ring of steel protection, your physical protection remains almost the same.

It's a pretty nice boost, if you're planning to spend Souls in other stats

That's a baseless rumor. Ring of Steel Protection +2 ONLY decreases dmg by about 4.25%. That's almost useless. It would not change anything.

Now to prisoners chain:
It is only usefull on low levels or till you have less than 27 VIG or 30 END. You get 5 stats x 3. No plain % of anything. So it's only really good on levels between 1 and 50~70 depending on what you skill. After that it becomes almost useless. VIT is VIT and is 99% useless. Ring of Steel Protection does not negate the dmg. You still get a lot of dmg from wearing the chain with steel protection. On low levels it basicly "negates" the dmg as you get 15 free levels and have more VIG, but on 100-120 .... never use it. Rather get FAP+2 or something.

[Stinky Melvin]

This is confusing. None of you are agreeing! >:V