Carthus Curved Sword is the most balanced weapon in the game.

[haloboi]

I find it hilarious that even the most elite PVP players think that the Carthus Curved Sword is a "try-hard" weapon or a weapon that is overpowered. The weapon can kill in 3-4 hits,has bleed proc, roll catch and R1 spam capability. Yet nobody complains about a one shot Yhorm Machete, 1 shot caster builds, perma stun pyro builds and phantom hit halberd/glaives. Yet when I get insta-killed by a hornet ring parry, its my Carthus Curved Sword that is the problem? It literally makes ZERO sense that a weapon that takes 3 R1 spams to kill, is a tryhard weapon, when there are stun lock R1 weapons like the Black Knight Greataxe that kill in 2 hits or the new Gargoyle Flame Spear run down meta, that is solely reliant on R1 stunlocking. Im not gonna say that any of these weapons need a nerf or a buff. I just think that the community needs to accept these weapons the way they are, before FromSoft decides to make Bleed weapons ineffective and buff the Dark Sword to 1 shot because people couldnt learn to parry.

[Cooman]

Originally posted by Praise the Sun, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!:

Literally every twinsword is better than the Carthus sword. It's just the favorite of the month, because a lot of new or bad players watch videos or read posts, articles, whatever and pick their weapons accordingly and someone seems to have titled it the "best" weapon, which ofcourse is nonsense, but derps will believe whatever they see or read.

It is a very good weapon and it has "spam" (just pressing R1 repeatedly) capabilities, which attracts new and bad players, thus giving it a bad name, but it's by no means "the best weapon in the game".

The truth is, use whatever you want, what you have fun with and what you feel is effective for you, who cares what a bunch of baddies think about anything really.

I love my carthus. fashion is cool imo.

the one thing I find best about it I'd it's roll catching capabilities.

2r1s, soon as they go about 1/4 the way into the roll hit it again. I can literially roll catch over and over with this thing.

[Iri]

Originally posted by haloboi:

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>massive parry window
Fast enough to not being reaction-parryable by non-Koreans.
>easy as hell to read
With how movement and directioning works in DSIII - not in the hands of a good player.
>entire skill tree around it
Yeah, a serious downside in the world of 40/40 Quality builds, especially for a buffable weapon with pretty low requirements.
>as devastating
Curved sword speed with GS-tier damage? Sure.
>washing poke
That is the whole another problem, and Washing Pole, while being a tryhard favorite for that last hit, is rarely used for the whole fights.

...oh, what's that smell? The smell of a noob trying out Cancer Cuck Sword after looking up 'ds3 best pvp weapon' and getting rekt, it seems.

[haloboi]

Originally posted by Iris of the White:

Originally posted by haloboi:

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>massive parry window
Fast enough to not being reaction-parryable by non-Koreans.
>easy as hell to read
With how movement and directioning works in DSIII - not in the hands of a good player.
>entire skill tree around it
Yeah, a serious downside in the world of 40/40 Quality builds, especially for a buffable weapon with pretty low requirements.
>as devastating
Curved sword speed with GS-tier damage? Sure.
>washing poke
That is the whole another problem, and Washing Pole, while being a tryhard favorite for that last hit, is rarely used for the whole fights.

...oh, what's that smell? The smell of a noob trying out Cancer Cuck Sword after looking up 'ds3 best pvp weapon' and getting rekt, it seems.

Claims the CCS is for noobs but still cant parry the 3rd R1 on it considering you can parry mid stun. Im not gonna deny the range/dmg is the best out of all the curved swords but the sweeps are anything but "fast". The dmg should be GS tier considering you have 40+ luck invested with the +5 from hollow and +10 from hollow left hand. Thats the whole point of luck scaling. Again, if you invest in luck/dex then the CCS is warranted to perform. Similarly I havent even mentioned the chaos blade which does almost the exact same dmg.

[Spoprockel]

A reactive CSS player can't be parried, while he can easily punish all other weapons with lightning speed and massive damage.
All he has to do is wait until you make your move and press r1 two times. You won't recover fast enough to get a parry off.
And yes, it's basically the same with reactive halberd r1 wonders, but those are slower, so they can be poked to death with faster weapons.

[Rein]

Carthus performs in sharp, refined and hollow builds...so pretty much everything right? Even at infused you'll still deal 230 which is not so bad. " but the sweeps are anything but "fast" " Yeah I think you're just a troll.

Edit: Also, parrying the third hit? are you kidding me right now? Just pretend we're not on your brain dead SL range for a second.

[Iri]

Originally posted by haloboi:

Claims the CCS is for noobs but still cant parry the 3rd R1 on it considering you can parry mid stun. Im not gonna deny the range/dmg is the best out of all the curved swords but the sweeps are anything but "fast". The dmg should be GS tier considering you have 40+ luck invested with the +5 from hollow and +10 from hollow left hand. Thats the whole point of luck scaling. Again, if you invest in luck/dex then the CCS is warranted to perform. Similarly I havent even mentioned the chaos blade which does almost the exact same dmg.

>parry the 3rd R1
You can not facetank-parry CCS third R1 with 12th frame parry, and you won't be able to do it even with 10th frame if there's even a bit of lag. And who ever goes for the third R1 when you can wait for the roll, press R1 then and get a guaranteed automatic roll catch?
>sweeps are anything but "fast"
2H CCS R1s are faster than one-handed straight sword's, both in startup and chaining. They are faster than 2H rapier's and tied with 1H rapier's (yeah, on par with the dreaded Bestoc R1 spam of the early days).
>40+ luck
Refined at 40/40 or even 27/40 gives you similar AR to Hollow with 40 Luck, and the bleed gain from Luck is nothing in comparison to Carthus Rogue.
>chaos blade
Slower, costs more stamina, vertical attacks, damages you with every, even blocked/dodged, attack, can't be infused/buffed.

I'm still not convinced.

[Cooman]

Originally posted by Iris of the White:

Originally posted by haloboi:

Claims the CCS is for noobs but still cant parry the 3rd R1 on it considering you can parry mid stun. Im not gonna deny the range/dmg is the best out of all the curved swords but the sweeps are anything but "fast". The dmg should be GS tier considering you have 40+ luck invested with the +5 from hollow and +10 from hollow left hand. Thats the whole point of luck scaling. Again, if you invest in luck/dex then the CCS is warranted to perform. Similarly I havent even mentioned the chaos blade which does almost the exact same dmg.

>parry the 3rd R1
You can not facetank-parry CCS third R1 with 12th frame parry, and you won't be able to do it even with 10th frame if there's even a bit of lag. And who ever goes for the third R1 when you can wait for the roll, press R1 then and get a guaranteed automatic roll catch?
>sweeps are anything but "fast"
2H CCS R1s are faster than one-handed straight sword's, both in startup and chaining. They are faster than 2H rapier's and tied with 1H rapier's (yeah, on par with the dreaded Bestoc R1 spam of the early days).
>40+ luck
Refined at 40/40 or even 27/40 gives you similar AR to Hollow with 40 Luck, and the bleed gain from Luck is nothing in comparison to Carthus Rogue.
>chaos blade
Slower, costs more stamina, vertical attacks, damages you with every, even blocked/dodged, attack, can't be infused/buffed.

I'm still not convinced.

washing pole has similar AR, twice the range, and can roll catch just as good with 1h r2. also has miles better running attack for roll spammers.

or onikiri and ubadachi have similar AR, with the weapon art in l1 being instant death for most.

or warden twinblades l1-l2-r2 ....

or buffed sellswords.

[Rein]

I thought we were talking CCS here. There are plenty of tryhard weapons here but the one at discussion is CCS so stay on topic. Lol onikiri and ubadachi, probably the most overrated piece of crap weapon in the souls series. Who dies to that crap?

[Cooman]

Originally posted by Rein:

I thought we were talking CCS here. There are plenty of tryhard weapons here but the one at discussion is CCS so stay on topic. Lol onikiri and ubadachi, probably the most overrated piece of crap weapon in the souls series. Who dies to that crap?

please cry some more...the salt is used to help dry up the blood on my carthus curved sword...

next time you duel say to them "excuse me sir, could you please put that carthus curved sword away, I don't like my opponents using that weapon, I'll only be happy if you use the painting guardians curved sword you just need to make sure it's the weakest weapon in its respective category and I'm a ok!"


yea no...last time I checked when I fight someone I do it to win, not to try and gimp myself for no reason....

[haloboi]

Originally posted by Rein:

I thought we were talking CCS here. There are plenty of tryhard weapons here but the one at discussion is CCS so stay on topic. Lol onikiri and ubadachi, probably the most overrated piece of crap weapon in the souls series. Who dies to that crap?

Onikiri is actually preferred over Warden for most builds because of its weapon art and rolling R1 reach. The thing about Wardens is the stunlock combo.As for CCS the weapon art is horrible and leaves you wide open and as one person already stated the R2 does basically nothing since its so slow. I honestly dont mind the R1 spamming weapons, so I dont understand what makes the CCS any different at all.

[Cooman]

Originally posted by g1Arnold:

Originally posted by haloboi:

I find it hilarious that even the most elite PVP players think that the Carthus Curved Sword is a "try-hard" weapon or a weapon that is overpowered. The weapon can kill in 3-4 hits,has bleed proc, roll catch and R1 spam capability. Yet nobody complains about a one shot Yhorm Machete, 1 shot caster builds, perma stun pyro builds and phantom hit halberd/glaives. Yet when I get insta-killed by a hornet ring parry, its my Carthus Curved Sword that is the problem? It literally makes ZERO sense that a weapon that takes 3 R1 spams to kill, is a tryhard weapon, when there are stun lock R1 weapons like the Black Knight Greataxe that kill in 2 hits or the new Gargoyle Flame Spear run down meta, that is solely reliant on R1 stunlocking. Im not gonna say that any of these weapons need a nerf or a buff. I just think that the community needs to accept these weapons the way they are, before FromSoft decides to make Bleed weapons ineffective and buff the Dark Sword to 1 shot because people couldnt learn to parry.

defending the ccs please ♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ your trash

how about you git gud casul.

[haloboi]

Originally posted by ocoo:

how about you git gud casul.

Dont feed the trolls. Its obvious he has a mental impairment. He probably got kicked off his Minecraft server. Its ok.

[odinigh]

Originally posted by Iris of the White:

Originally posted by haloboi:

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>massive parry window
Fast enough to not being reaction-parryable by non-Koreans.

But most Koreans are terrible at videogames.

[Cooman]

Originally posted by odinigh:

Originally posted by Iris of the White:

>massive parry window
Fast enough to not being reaction-parryable by non-Koreans.

But most Koreans are terrible at videogames.

burrrnnnnnn

[Vinyltavia]

Originally posted by ocoo:

Originally posted by odinigh:

But most Koreans are terrible at videogames.

burrrnnnnnn

Leave m'ah Korean Heritage outta this ;_;