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what is the best shield for parrying?
what is the best shield for parrying?
and whats the best why yo learn parrying?
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Infernal Delight Oct 16, 2018 @ 3:09am 
You learn how to parry by using various items and practicing. This can also determine (for yourself) what you do and don't mind using to parry.

Things to consider would be whether you'd like the stamina regen of the grass crest (as minimal as it may seem) A smaller shield that can also parry spells? A larger shield that you can reliably use to block?

You may even want to consider non-shield options for parrying such as the caestus or rapier. With the caestus, you can add a fire gem and leave it +0 in order to punch out the Pus of Man while stun locking them. The caestus also offers a temporary hyperarmor with it's special so it can be surprisingly useful (or lethal depending on your opponent)

The rapier can be used as a quick interrupter of your opponents attack and useful to either gain some time or merely combo your opponent. You can even use it as a finisher in place of a throwing knife.

As a final addition for useful shields, you may also wish to use a shield which opens up a weapon art instead of parrying. If you're so inclinded you can still use weapons who's special(s) include the option to parry such as a katana.

If you want to know the fastest way to parry, then use a caestus. As for shield, it varies so wildly that there is no good answer.
Starlight Spirit Oct 16, 2018 @ 3:19am 
Wow thank you for the very usefull info :3
never used parrying before so this will be fun to try out
Pyramid Bread Oct 16, 2018 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by Paladin Carnage:
If you want to know the fastest way to parry, then use a caestus.

Granted, caestus and all other fist weapons (demon fist + claw weapons) have the most parry frames - with the disadvantage of instability frames (and depletion of just about all your stamina) if you miss - something shields don't have.

Originally posted by Paladin Carnage:
As for shield, it varies so wildly that there is no good answer.

What? It doesn't 'vary so wildly', whatever that means. Small shields have the best parry frames for parrying, and there are a few small shields (parry shields) like the buckler and target shield that have earlier startup frames than other small shields, but the same amount of frames.

Caestus has the same startup frames as a parry shield, but an extra 2 frames at the end. Regular small shields also have 2 frames less than caestus, but start two frames later than the caestus.

If you want to use a small shield to parry, start off using a small shield that has good stability (in case of a partial parry) like Lewellyn's or the Iron Round shield. If you want, try the buckler and target shield as well, but it's pretty easy to learn to parry with regular small shields.
John Trollsten Oct 16, 2018 @ 6:24am 
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/file/Dark-Souls-3/parry_frame_data.png

parry shields the best followed by fist weapons and small shields. Small Shields are better/safer when you go for setup parries though.

You can use any parry shield since you will mostly use it for parries, so the other stats dont matter much. Parry shields are small shields with a different parry animation (buckler, target shield, small leather shield)

Looking at fist weapons most ppl take the ceastus to parry because it is low weight and the perseverance weaponart can be useful sometimes.

The most popular small shields are the iron round shield and the Llewellyn shield (the name i always have to look up). The iron round shield has lower weight and better stability and the Llewellyn has better defencevalues.
Last edited by John Trollsten; Oct 16, 2018 @ 6:25am
TrueArchery Oct 16, 2018 @ 8:13am 
Medium shields have the advantage of a) less punishment for partial parries due to higher stability, b) actual value as blocking shields and that is a very powerful tool, it also makes block-setup parries more reliable and c) not coming with a huge red flag "I'm a maddafakking parry king!!!"

So considering how situational and unreliable parries are, medium shields are arguably the best because they are much more useful in the actual combat. The Caestus is good if you make use of the weapon art, too. The other parrying tools just are not very good.
Starlight Spirit Oct 16, 2018 @ 9:52am 
I guess it all depends on your play style
cridus Oct 16, 2018 @ 9:55am 
small shield? either iron round shield or llewellyn shield, your choice.
parry shield? any, I guess. the one with more stability.
medium shield? I don't know if there's any one better than the others. if the parry frames are all the same, I think the best one is the lothric knight shield.
fist weapon? any, but the caestus is also useful because it has perseverance, so it has more uses.
Starlight Spirit Oct 16, 2018 @ 9:59am 
caestus + dark hand = op I have just learned XD
Seferofe Oct 16, 2018 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by cridus:
small shield? either iron round shield or llewellyn shield, your choice.
parry shield? any, I guess. the one with more stability.
medium shield? I don't know if there's any one better than the others. if the parry frames are all the same, I think the best one is the lothric knight shield.
fist weapon? any, but the caestus is also useful because it has perseverance, so it has more uses.

For parry shield I beliece the target shield has the best stability. Not great, but better than the buckler and the small leather shield.
For medium shield I would go for the lothric knight shield, but it needs 18 strength and is kinda weighty, so not all builds can use it. Otherwise you could just go for one of the crest shields.
Yeah, I'd go for caestus, but mostly because I like using it with a ultra weapon or to swap to it for chase downs.

I'd normally go for a small shield, the llewellyn shield specifically, because it's much easier than a medium shield for reaction parries. It can also be used well for setup parries, but you have to watch out for chip damage and stamina drain. I prefer to keep it uninfused, since when blessed or simple it really hurts the stability. Medium shields are amazing for setup parries, not just because you block all/most damage, but because people expect it far less.

Originally posted by Starlight:
caestus + dark hand = op I have just learned XD

The dark hand really is not op. It's only good early on and that's because it has good damage on an R1 you can very easily spam. It's terrible range and damage later on, along with pretty much only 1 attack, make it really easy to deal with.

Edit: Oh, and to correct decadence, failing a parry with a fist weapon doesn't put you into instability frames. They don't have any damage block like shields, so you take the full hit if you miss the parry. Instability frames is like when you get kicked, you'll hear a sort of "thud" when you get hit.
Last edited by Seferofe; Oct 16, 2018 @ 10:13am
Starlight Spirit Oct 16, 2018 @ 10:13am 
yeah I'm only sl 12 and doing Blue sentinels atm just trying to get moonlight blade for the achivment
Taco Cat Oct 16, 2018 @ 10:27am 
I prefer the iron round shield, only problem is that you have to farm for it. An alternative would be the llewellyn shield (same stability, but the iron round shield looks better imo and llewellyn is a bit heavier).
Last edited by Taco Cat; Oct 16, 2018 @ 10:27am
76561198865055663 Oct 16, 2018 @ 11:51am 
Everyone here are casuals, real men use the Caestus.

Dont waste weight with a useless shield you're only going to use for parrying use the caestus, sure missing a parry will take most your stamina but when you git gud you wont miss your parries and you can have some better armor or weapon with that weight you saved with it. The only people who use shields either cant parry or waste some vitality using it.

Caestus is a reactive parry (react to enemy attacks) and can also do predictive parrys (prediction on when the enemy attacks) Small shields can only reliably do predictive parrys.

How to get good with parry? it is only something u can learn with practise there isnt any solid tips you can give some one it is something you will gain when you play more. You will feel when your enemy will attack or just get used to timing (Like straight sword r1 r1 l1 combo is something you get the muscle memory to parry).
Last edited by 100% Succ; Oct 16, 2018 @ 11:56am
Originally posted by TrueArchery:
Medium shields have the advantage of a) less punishment for partial parries due to higher stability, b) actual value as blocking shields and that is a very powerful tool, it also makes block-setup parries more reliable and c) not coming with a huge red flag "I'm a maddafakking parry king!!!"

More than one parry attempt with a medium shield is a dead giveaway, though. Takes more skill so that's why so few people use them for parrying in DS3.
Pyramid Bread Oct 16, 2018 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Seferofe:
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Edit: Oh, and to correct decadence, failing a parry with a fist weapon doesn't put you into instability frames. They don't have any damage block like shields, so you take the full hit if you miss the parry. Instability frames is like when you get kicked, you'll hear a sort of "thud" when you get hit.

Dude if you are going to correct someone, actually have your info correct.

Fist weapons were patched ages ago so that missed parries result in extra damage taken due to instability frames (and you hear that thud you speak of)
Last edited by Pyramid Bread; Oct 16, 2018 @ 1:34pm
Seferofe Oct 16, 2018 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by decadence:
Originally posted by Seferofe:
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Edit: Oh, and to correct decadence, failing a parry with a fist weapon doesn't put you into instability frames. They don't have any damage block like shields, so you take the full hit if you miss the parry. Instability frames is like when you get kicked, you'll hear a sort of "thud" when you get hit.

Dude if you are going to correct someone, actually have your info correct.

Fist weapons were patched ages ago so that missed parries result in extra damage taken due to instability frames (and you hear that thud you speak of)

Really? I don't remember them saying it put you into instability frames. I do remember that you used to take less damage from a failed parry, but I thought it was something like the duel weapons having some sort of % block (like medium shields generally have 100% physical block.

If I'm wrong then my mistake, I just didn't think that it puts you into instability frames.
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