Too many... bad weapons...

[Q1]

Bearing in mind, I do not play online except to do the whole boss summoning routine, sunbro and all, so the effectiveness of a weapon in pvp is utterly meaingless to me. No invaders and I don't invade ect.

That being said too many weapons in this game... just don't seem like they're all that good. It doesn't matter much since I'm "good" enough to roll my way through even the harder boss fights much less the average mobs.

But it just seems like so many weapons are 'sure, you can use this but why would you?'

Been using a mace and it just feels like a slower straight sword with less range. I've tried daggers of all types, curved swords seem okay but kick is so much better, ect.

[❌ Peath]

Mace is a blunt weapon - with it you deal more dmg to armored opponents, but the range on it is terrible. You have Perservance tho which is nice but in PVE stance performs much better.

I like the Warpick - you know the hammer with thrust damage that takes advantage of Leo Ring. But it's so slow that even rolling R1 takes longer than enemy turning around and hitting me with his weapon XD

Yeah, as a game that supposed to be balanced about PVE aspect it is badly balanced around PVE.

[Zamus]

The main problem is that bosses do not stagger easily and are quicker with longer combos than most DkS games, so heavy weapons have very strict windows to safely attack, on the other side straight sword are way too good both PvP and PvE, with a SS I can sneak attacks that would get me hit if I were using a slower weapon and for the proper attack windows I can usually sneak two attacks dealing almost as much damage as a single R1 from a heavy weapon.

Maces are good but they are mostly only useful vs what they counter heavily mostly sklletons and rock enemies, they do stagger enemies faster but again with the speed of a SS you will mostlikely take just as long to stagger a boss while dealing more damage.

Curved sword are DPS monsters if you use a weapon buff.

[Q1]

I miss the good old days when I could pick basically any weapon and while some weapons were still better than others, I didn't feel gimped using them!

[Merilirem]

Originally posted by V1:

I miss the good old days when I could pick basically any weapon and while some weapons were still better than others, I didn't feel gimped using them!

Agreed, things are a little off right now, but thats pretty normal for a souls game. The patches will keep coming and eventaully it might have a better feel, but for now you should just use what feels right to you.

[Sa†o]

Sorry to say but there is no point to use anything but the SS weaponclass.

Speed/damage/reach/utillity/buffs/staminacost/everything is just on average better.

And without poise not only do large weapons become due to being inferior to begin with, but they become completely and utterly pointless in pve.

Pick knightclass and you start with top tier gear that you wont ever have to change.

[ChaoticGamer]

every weapons has its own chose of the wielder's pick, there isn't a bad weapon even a broken sword (believed me it is still pretty powerful if you attend upgrade it and imbude it with certant gem, don't fall for any players who attend use broken sword weapon item).

Every weapons has its purpous and its own rule as same with the human's abilities.

[Sa†o]

Originally posted by ChaoticGamer:

every weapons has its own chose of the wielder's pick, there isn't a bad weapon even a broken sword (believed me it is still pretty powerful if you attend upgrade it and imbude it with certant gem, don't fall for any players who attend use broken sword weapon item).

Every weapons has its purpous and its own rule as same with the human's abilities.

No and no.

I have 100% this game. It's piss easy for me.

There is no reason to pick anything other than a SS or TS which is actually SS weaponclass.

The only reason you could make up is because the game is so easy and you want to handicap yourself to make it more challanging.
Sure I can understand that, I beat the game naked with flynns ring as my only gearpiece.

[ChaoticGamer]

Originally posted by Duero:

Originally posted by ChaoticGamer:

every weapons has its own chose of the wielder's pick, there isn't a bad weapon even a broken sword (believed me it is still pretty powerful if you attend upgrade it and imbude it with certant gem, don't fall for any players who attend use broken sword weapon item).

Every weapons has its purpous and its own rule as same with the human's abilities.

No and no.

I have 100% this game. It's piss easy for me.

There is no reason to pick anything other than a SS or TS which is actually SS weaponclass.

The only reason you could make up is because the game is so easy and you want to handicap yourself to make it more challanging.
Sure I can understand that, I beat the game naked with flynns ring as my only gearpiece.

fine get the hack weapon to be over 9000, now stop complaining about every weapons is bad weapons.

[Ancient Toaster]

Basically going to chime in, and agree with what others have said. The issue is bosses and most mobs are faster and more aggressive in this game, and the tougher ones don't stagger, so slower weapons, like maces and what not, suck in this game because they are just too slow.

Straight Swords are popular and deadly in this game for a reason. They serve well in PvE and PvP because they offer a balance of moveset, speed and damage. There really is no reason to not use swords like Astora's Straight Sword or the Longsword/DarkSword etc over all the useless ♥♥♥♥ they throw at you unless you're making a gimmick build.

[ChaoticGamer]

Originally posted by AncientToaster:

Basically going to chime in, and agree with what others have said. The issue is bosses and most mobs are faster and more aggressive in this game, and the tougher ones don't stagger, so slower weapons, like maces and what not, suck in this game because they are just too slow.

Straight Swords are popular and deadly in this game for a reason. They serve well in PvE and PvP because they offer a balance of moveset, speed and damage. There really is no reason to not use swords like Astora's Straight Sword or the Longsword/DarkSword etc over all the useless ♥♥♥♥ they throw at you unless you're making a gimmick build.

you know they nerf the metas right? dark sword was one the meta. Anyway heard DE is still trying nerf any meta still or keep some what type meta in the game.

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

Originally posted by V1:

I miss the good old days when I could pick basically any weapon and while some weapons were still better than others, I didn't feel gimped using them!

That was the case in DS2. Not in DS1.

[Ancient Toaster]

Originally posted by The Spoopy Man (Alfons):

Originally posted by V1:

I miss the good old days when I could pick basically any weapon and while some weapons were still better than others, I didn't feel gimped using them!

That was the case in DS2. Not in DS1.

Yeah but I get what he's saying. There were overall more viable weapons to use in Dark Souls 1 even than this. I can't honestly say I want to use anything in this game but a Straight Sword or a Rapier type weapon, because the rest are trash.

[Call Sign: Raven]

Straight swords are generally easier to use, but man...you guys are missing out on a wealth of different strategies by opening up past just using a straight sword.

For example, I killed the Nameless King in under 40 seconds with a Claymore, because he was so easy to stagger with it. At 40 str/dex and refined infusion, plus the Lloyd's Sword Ring, that thing hits like a truck.

I played another game using the Uchigatana, and it made the PvE feel trivial because I did 40 dex, 40 luck and everything just bled everywhere. Added carthus Rouge to make the effect even more pronounced. I killed Soul of Cinder and was surprised at how fast the fight finished.

The Sellsword Twinblades are amazing in PvE for their ability to stagger bosses very quickly. Add a simple buff and you are a force to be reckoned with!

Those are just a few examples. In other news, I tried a bow only build and gave up on it. Things were taking just too long to kill, and I don't have that kind of time to commit to something like that. I really don't want to fight Yhorm with JUST a bow. ♥♥♥♥ that.

But yeah, so far my experience has been the same as Dark Souls 1, where I could basically pick up any weapon and be okay with it. Well, almost any weapon. I seem to suck very very much with thrusting swords and whips. But, that's just two weapon classes so I'm not terribly worried.

Dark Souls 3 has some of the most balanced weapons I've ever seen in a video game. It's quite amaizng to me what they pulled off, actually. Fun stuff!

[Call Sign: Raven]

Originally posted by AncientToaster:

Originally posted by The Spoopy Man (Alfons):

That was the case in DS2. Not in DS1.

Yeah but I get what he's saying. There were overall more viable weapons to use in Dark Souls 1 even than this. I can't honestly say I want to use anything in this game but a Straight Sword or a Rapier type weapon, because the rest are trash.

You need to understand the other weapons better. I have used something from every weapon class, and the only thing I would really say I couldn't get the hang of were whips and thrusting swords. I found everything else to be extremely viable, if not better than straightswords. Claymore is my go to, now.

[Q1]

Originally posted by The Spoopy Man (Alfons):

Originally posted by V1:

I miss the good old days when I could pick basically any weapon and while some weapons were still better than others, I didn't feel gimped using them!

That was the case in DS2. Not in DS1.

Did DS1 first time with the Thief starter weapon, bandit knife? I don't recall what it was called, never felt gimped.