Chaos dagger vs Dark dagger ?

[Baby don't hurt me]

which is better?
i heard some say Chaos dagger has something with hornet ring so it's better
but i test on grave warden they both have same damage with or without hornet ring
and since dark can be boost by blindfold mask
i think dark dagger is better?
or is there any other thing can boost fire damage?

[lpnlizard27]

its not about the AR.

Chaos crits are broken and do more damage than they should.

Dark is better for noncritical damage.

[Baby don't hurt me]

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

its not about the AR.

Chaos crits are broken and do more damage than they should.

Dark is better for noncritical damage.

i didn't mention AR
i said crit damage

[Taco Cat]

I believe only fire clutch ring boosts fire damage, haven't heard about others. I was just watching saint_riot and he was doing a ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage with the hornet ring using a dark weapon and he had to take the ring off cause he was tired of the loading screens. Even without the ring, he was still doing a whole of damage.
https://youtu.be/hWAc6jWilN0

Here's the video in case you wanna see
Still, the chaos dagger does more as he shows about midway through the video.

[Baby don't hurt me]

Originally posted by TacoCat:

I believe only fire clutch ring boosts fire damage, haven't heard about others. I was just watching saint_riot and he was doing a ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage with the hornet ring using a dark weapon and he had to take the ring off cause he was tired of the loading screens. Even without the ring, he was still doing a whole of damage.
https://youtu.be/hWAc6jWilN0

Here's the video in case you wanna see
Still, the chaos dagger does more as he shows about midway through the video.

that video is about half year ago and there is an update between it

or maybe crit works different in PVP with PVE?

[TrueArchery]

PvE and PvP are different things, dude. Like for example, Ring of Steel Protection or Clutch Ring or literally any body buff.

[Baby don't hurt me]

guess i need some poor people i met in invasion to test it out

[lpnlizard27]

Originally posted by BabyDontHurtMe:

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

its not about the AR.

Chaos crits are broken and do more damage than they should.

Dark is better for noncritical damage.

i didn't mention AR
i said crit damage

Well you sorta did with your mention of the blindfold mask, it raises dark AR, thats the only reason you would want it, even if your dark AR on the same weapon is greater, chaos crit will still be higher.

Like i said before Chaos crit is just broken, it doesnt seem to follow the normal damage calculation method for crits.

[Baby don't hurt me]

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

Originally posted by BabyDontHurtMe:

i didn't mention AR
i said crit damage

Well you sorta did with your mention of the blindfold mask, it raises dark AR, thats the only reason you would want it, even if your dark AR on the same weapon is greater, chaos crit will still be higher.

Like i said before Chaos crit is just broken, it doesnt seem to follow the normal damage calculation method for crits.

so Chaos dagger with hornet ring is broken in PVP but not in PVE?
weird

[[MD]Fox]

Stop posting mis-information for crying out loud! Chaos damage is NOT broken, DARK damage is BROKE vs. players with the hornet ring.

Dark Damage does NOT recieve the proper critical bonus damage with the hornet ring, but all other damage types do. The reason why a chaos infused dagger is so popular is because 30/30 int/faith scaling is abnormally high for chaos and dark scaling (they scale exactly the same on all weapons) and critical strikes penetrate flat defenses, so multiple damage types on weapons are hardly effected when it comes to critical strikes. The dagger has a natural HUGE multiplier for critical strikes, especially ripostes. I have a 40dex 40int char with a crystal infused dagger with over 360 AR and a riposte on a player with this character deals around 1550+ damage, using hornets of course.

Do some research before you post an "answer"!

[Average Citizen (Not FBI)]

Originally posted by MDFox:

Stop posting mis-information for crying out loud! Chaos damage is NOT broken, DARK damage is BROKE vs. players with the hornet ring.

Dark Damage does NOT recieve the proper critical bonus damage with the hornet ring, but all other damage types do. The reason why a chaos infused dagger is so popular is because 30/30 int/faith scaling is abnormally high for chaos and dark scaling (they scale exactly the same on all weapons) and critical strikes penetrate flat defenses, so multiple damage types on weapons are hardly effected when it comes to critical strikes. The dagger has a natural HUGE multiplier for critical strikes, especially ripostes. I have a 40dex 40int char with a crystal infused dagger with over 360 AR and a riposte on a player with this character deals around 1550+ damage, using hornets of course.

Do some research before you post an "answer"!

Why so ?

[lpnlizard27]

I know right, was gonna say hes probably correct, but the level of salt in that post...

[[MD]Fox]

Originally posted by Average Citizen (Not FBI):

Originally posted by MDFox:

Stop posting mis-information for crying out loud! Chaos damage is NOT broken, DARK damage is BROKE vs. players with the hornet ring.

Dark Damage does NOT recieve the proper critical bonus damage with the hornet ring, but all other damage types do. The reason why a chaos infused dagger is so popular is because 30/30 int/faith scaling is abnormally high for chaos and dark scaling (they scale exactly the same on all weapons) and critical strikes penetrate flat defenses, so multiple damage types on weapons are hardly effected when it comes to critical strikes. The dagger has a natural HUGE multiplier for critical strikes, especially ripostes. I have a 40dex 40int char with a crystal infused dagger with over 360 AR and a riposte on a player with this character deals around 1550+ damage, using hornets of course.

Do some research before you post an "answer"!

Why so ?

Being right is salty? The meaning of this word is becoming warped.

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

I know right, was gonna say hes probably correct, but the level of salt in that post...

Who was this post directed at? If it was me, then I am correct, kid.

[lpnlizard27]

The overall condescending and belittleing tone of your post is what gets you called salty, being right doesnt change that fact.

[Tronald Dumpf]

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

its not about the AR.

Chaos crits are broken and do more damage than they should.

Dark is better for noncritical damage.

dark dagger is bugged on ripostes and if chaos dagger didnt do the damage it did there would be no point in using it over anything else

[[MD]Fox]

Originally posted by lpnlizard27:

The overall condescending and belittleing tone of your post is what gets you called salty, being right doesnt change that fact.

Considering the fact that you're incredibly wrong about the mechanics of this game and you're the first one to give the wrong information, I would say that you are the one who is truly salty here. How mad can you be that I corrected you about a small mechanic in a video game that's easily verifiable by playing the game for your self. I am being "condescending and belittling" because this mis-information has been debunked over and over again, yet it keeps being said by people like you who don't bother putting in any effort to see if what you say is true or not. Calling me salty instead of admitting you're wrong is an ad hominem, thus this discussion is pointless and you're only making your self look more "salty" and ignorant.