Wex Dust Mod safety?

[𝕭𝖔𝖆𝖌𝖗𝖎𝖚𝖘]

Anyone using this mod, are they ban for it?

[BoxerDanc]

Been using for ages, every youtuber uses it, no ban.

[𝕭𝖔𝖆𝖌𝖗𝖎𝖚𝖘]

Originally posted by BoxerDanc:

Been using for ages, every youtuber uses it, no ban.

Thanks, I discovered it just now.

[Omastar]

Originally posted by ⭐⭐⭐Lenin⭐⭐⭐:

Anyone using this mod, are they ban for it?

I've been using it for months, pretty much all my friends have too.

[Ray]

dont do casul dust kids

[Quaz]

Originally posted by Ray:

dont do casul dust kids

I mean, you can dust if you want.

[nomorevideos]

Any sort of modifications (backing-up saves not included) to the game are not allowed, but the chance of getting banned for mods like Wex Dust or simple file replacements is very low. Before I got myself banned on purpose with Cinders I played the game on and off for nearly a year while using basic mods like retextures or animation mods. The LOD mod that removes the annoying as hell pop-in is also safe from my personal experience.
Again, use at your own risk. I've used Wex Dust before and never had issues with it myself.

[Fear_some]

i use it, I didn't get banned until now

[cridus]

Originally posted by nomorevideos:

Any sort of modifications (backing-up saves not included) to the game are not allowed, but the chance of getting banned for mods like Wex Dust or simple file replacements is very low. Before I got myself banned on purpose with Cinders I played the game on and off for nearly a year while using basic mods like retextures or animation mods. The LOD mod that removes the annoying as hell pop-in is also safe from my personal experience.
Again, use at your own risk. I've used Wex Dust before and never had issues with it myself.

No, the chance of being banned because of wex dust (and honest merchant, blue sentinel, lazy loader, DS3 debug FPS and surely others) is not very low, it's ZERO.

I can't understand why there's still people thinking that very widely-spread and tested mods would still have a chance of causing a ban. Especially if one makes sure they're all compatible with each other, when installing them (the ones I've mentioned are all compatible).

[nomorevideos]

Originally posted by cridus:

Originally posted by nomorevideos:

Any sort of modifications (backing-up saves not included) to the game are not allowed, but the chance of getting banned for mods like Wex Dust or simple file replacements is very low. Before I got myself banned on purpose with Cinders I played the game on and off for nearly a year while using basic mods like retextures or animation mods. The LOD mod that removes the annoying as hell pop-in is also safe from my personal experience.
Again, use at your own risk. I've used Wex Dust before and never had issues with it myself.

No, the chance of being banned because of wex dust (and honest merchant, blue sentinel, lazy loader, DS3 debug FPS and surely others) is not very low, it's ZERO.

I can't understand why there's still people thinking that very widely-spread and tested mods would still have a chance of causing a ban. Especially if one makes sure they're all compatible with each other, when installing them (the ones I've mentioned are all compatible).

It's not "zero", because no one actually knows how From's ACs work and you could always be banned, softbanned, manually.

People have at least claimed before that certain mods like Dust or Souls Unsqueezed got them banned. Again, why I do not know. For all we know they were lying or were using unsafe mods or were plain cheating while using the mod(s). Either way, you cannot say it's 100% safe, it'll never be. It's against the ToS and since no one knows exactly how the ACs work, you cannot say that.
It's honestly funny how defensive you kinds of people get. You'll get your panties in a twist over someone saying that no mod is 100% safe (because they simply can't be), but then you're going ballistic over someone saying that simple button prompt mods and Co will get you banned.

All people have done for Wex Dust was test it, nothing more. The devs have made precautions and did a bunch of testing, but that's about it. They did not look at From's AC(s) and then worked around it perfectly, you can't guarantee that something will never ban you or risk getting your account in trouble if you don't know how the AC works.

File replacements for example are mostly safe. Unless you mess with critical params like weapon damage and so on you'll not get banned, from my own experience with several different mods including a data0 LOD mod that fixes the God-Awful pop-in.
In a year+ of playing the game I've never had issues with it, the other mods or Wex Dust, but again doesn't mean you or I can guarantee they're safe. Use at your own risk literally just means that, use the mods at your own risk. If you're somehow getting slapped it's no one's fault except your own.

You're entirely missing the point of what I said. I am not part of the crowd that has no idea what they're talking about, I'll give it to you as it is. Using any, ANY, A N Y sort of modification is against the EULA and even if 1000 people use a mod and no one gets banned, you still cannot GUARANTEE that it's 100 percent safe. That's not how it works. We don't know how the AC works exactly, we never will. Hence you cannot say that. Say "it's essentially safe to use, but since it's a mod use it at your own risk".

[Omastar]

Originally posted by nomorevideos:

Originally posted by cridus:

No, the chance of being banned because of wex dust (and honest merchant, blue sentinel, lazy loader, DS3 debug FPS and surely others) is not very low, it's ZERO.

I can't understand why there's still people thinking that very widely-spread and tested mods would still have a chance of causing a ban. Especially if one makes sure they're all compatible with each other, when installing them (the ones I've mentioned are all compatible).

It's not "zero", because no one actually knows how From's ACs work and you could always be banned, softbanned, manually.

People have at least claimed before that certain mods like Dust or Souls Unsqueezed got them banned. Again, why I do not know. For all we know they were lying or were using unsafe mods or were plain cheating while using the mod(s). Either way, you cannot say it's 100% safe, it'll never be. It's against the ToS and since no one knows exactly how the ACs work, you cannot say that.
It's honestly funny how defensive you kinds of people get. You'll get your panties in a twist over someone saying that no mod is 100% safe (because they simply can't be), but then you're going ballistic over someone saying that simple button prompt mods and Co will get you banned.

All people have done for Wex Dust was test it, nothing more. The devs have made precautions and did a bunch of testing, but that's about it. They did not look at From's AC(s) and then worked around it perfectly, you can't guarantee that something will never ban you or risk getting your account in trouble if you don't know how the AC works.

File replacements for example are mostly safe. Unless you mess with critical params like weapon damage and so on you'll not get banned, from my own experience with several different mods including a data0 LOD mod that fixes the God-Awful pop-in.
In a year+ of playing the game I've never had issues with it, the other mods or Wex Dust, but again doesn't mean you or I can guarantee they're safe. Use at your own risk literally just means that, use the mods at your own risk. If you're somehow getting slapped it's no one's fault except your own.

The way the mods are designed are to make it so they're undetected, but I do agree with saying it's 99% safe, I mean heck, even hand sanitizers say "Protects you from 99.99% of germs" Those people were likely banned due to a different reason though, I wish Bamco would DIRECTLY tell you what banned you.

[nomorevideos]

Originally posted by Omastar:

Originally posted by nomorevideos:

It's not "zero", because no one actually knows how From's ACs work and you could always be banned, softbanned, manually.

People have at least claimed before that certain mods like Dust or Souls Unsqueezed got them banned. Again, why I do not know. For all we know they were lying or were using unsafe mods or were plain cheating while using the mod(s). Either way, you cannot say it's 100% safe, it'll never be. It's against the ToS and since no one knows exactly how the ACs work, you cannot say that.
It's honestly funny how defensive you kinds of people get. You'll get your panties in a twist over someone saying that no mod is 100% safe (because they simply can't be), but then you're going ballistic over someone saying that simple button prompt mods and Co will get you banned.

All people have done for Wex Dust was test it, nothing more. The devs have made precautions and did a bunch of testing, but that's about it. They did not look at From's AC(s) and then worked around it perfectly, you can't guarantee that something will never ban you or risk getting your account in trouble if you don't know how the AC works.

File replacements for example are mostly safe. Unless you mess with critical params like weapon damage and so on you'll not get banned, from my own experience with several different mods including a data0 LOD mod that fixes the God-Awful pop-in.
In a year+ of playing the game I've never had issues with it, the other mods or Wex Dust, but again doesn't mean you or I can guarantee they're safe. Use at your own risk literally just means that, use the mods at your own risk. If you're somehow getting slapped it's no one's fault except your own.

The way the mods are designed are to make it so they're undetected, but I do agree with saying it's 99% safe, I mean heck, even hand sanitizers say "Protects you from 99.99% of germs" Those people were likely banned due to a different reason though, I wish Bamco would DIRECTLY tell you what banned you.

Except that would be very stupid. First off the ACs used in these sorts of games are just plain bad. They more often than not ban innocent players after they picked up an item dropped by someone else or it was straight-up forced in their inventory. Then the other AC, that runs in the background and checks for any major memory modifications, doesn't even check the archives. So you can essentially freely mod the game's assets as long as you don't change actual "code" like damage or whatnot.
Really what DS should have is 2 different modes. A "secure" online mode where if you use essentially ANY modification (where any mod also gets properly detected and you can't really circumvent it either for the most part) and an "insecure" mode where you can have as many mods loaded and things changed as you want, you can still go online and do whatever you want and not get banned.
That way if we had 2 save files and 2 modes, officially, there wouldn't be issues. But that would mean Bamco would have to make an actual AC and then also provide the extra options to everyone. It'll never happen sadly, because it doesn't make sense for them to do this.

Either way, it just annoys me how people say there's 0 risk involved and guarantee something that they simply cannot.
Again my own experience is that yes, most basic file mods as well as those PvP and whatever mods are safe to use. I've used several mods for a year+ no issues. Still doesn't change the fact I cannot guarantee they're safe.
People should always say that while they're "essentially" safe, use at your own risk. Hell most software you download on the internet usually has a "use at your own risk" disclaimer, in case anything inside the program ♥♥♥♥♥ up and causes half your PC's files to get messed up. You can never guarantee something, especially on PC, will simply work flawlessly.

[nomorevideos]

Originally posted by lShadow:

Originally posted by nomorevideos:

It's not "zero", because no one actually knows how From's ACs work and you could always be banned, softbanned, manually.

It's technically not "zero" because if you invade at the DLC areas without owning the DLCs then you might get banned. The "AC" just detects red flags in the save and if you have every DLC then it won't matter, you can even invade without unlocking the bonfires because the AC is just that bad. Wex dust only triggers the invasion and inserts a fixed item - none of these ban the players so it's 100% safe mod for those who own everything.

Again, no you cannot say that. You cannot claim it's 100% safe if you and everyone else, including the developers of the mod, do not know how the ACs work EXACTLY. From knows how their system works, no one else does. How hard is that to understand? You cannot guarantee it.

You can say it's "essentially" safe and the risk is so low it might not even be there. Use at your own risk. Again you can't guarantee something if you don't know how exactly the system that operates on the other side works. You don't know, no one here knows. All you and I can do is test everything manually and draw conclusions from it. Those conclusions are not 100% facts.

Stop making up false statements and tell people how it is.

"Any modifications are against the ToS, but most mods you'll find on the internet, excluding Cinders and Co (they explicitly state to not play them online since they're not safe), are essentially safe and you can use them without any real risks attached, but as always.. use at your own risk."

I just don't understand what's so difficult to understand. Instead you're here going "b-but, but". It's like I am arguing with people who do not understand basic logic and how things work, instead you latch onto whatever opinion or information in general floats around and parrot it. I need to stop coming here.

[cridus]

Originally posted by lShadow:

It's technically not "zero" because if you invade at the DLC areas without owning the DLCs then you might get banned.

no, that was a problem initially but it was fixed. so now it really is 100% safe.

Originally posted by Omastar:

People have at least claimed before that certain mods like Dust or Souls Unsqueezed got them banned.

Souls Unsqueezed absolutely gets you banned if you use the latest version. I got banned by it. in fact I didn't include it in the list of safe mods (v1.0.4 is safe though).
wex dust used to get people banned in the scenario mentioned above. but now it's 100% safe.

Originally posted by nomorevideos:

You're entirely missing the point of what I said. I am not part of the crowd that has no idea what they're talking about, I'll give it to you as it is. Using any, ANY, A N Y sort of modification is against the EULA and even if 1000 people use a mod and no one gets banned, you still cannot GUARANTEE that it's 100 percent safe. That's not how it works. We don't know how the AC works exactly, we never will. Hence you cannot say that.

you're underestimating how much the game's code has been reverse-engineered. I'm sure if you go in the discords for cheaters (or at least, in the main one) they can tell you exactly how it works.
consider that + the experience of thousands of players over a few years = 100% certainty. it's not difficult. I know you want to be strictly logical at all costs and not abandon that small possibility that something unknown can screw someone up, even if it was only 1 person on several thousands... but the experience we have is enough to be 100% certain, that these mods (or to be precise: their current versions) don't cause bans.
and even if a 0.01% of probabilty existed, it wouldn't even be worth considering it.

[quacksouls]

Don't want to believe a random person on the internet? Create a new Steam account, family DS3 with the alt account, install Wex Dust, log into your alt account whenever you want to play modded DS3.

I understand your concern about a 0.0001% chance of being banned. Use an alt account to test out any mod. But why? Consider this: travel via aeroplane is among the safest modes of transportation. Do the various aeroplane accidents reported in the news ever deter you from travelling via an aeroplane?

[Malthar]

Every mod carries a ban risk, some carry very little risk, such as Wex Dust or Honest Merchant. Just keep in mind there is still that very slight chance you'll be seeing the penalized message in a few days