PvP With A Great Hammer: Worth or No?

[Morshu-Maxxing]

I wanna keep this thread short and simple. I'm co-oping with a friend of mine and going through DS3 together, and of course, invasions are gonna happen. The winrate currently (with me usually being the one 1v1ing them) is around 50/50 us vs the invader, and I'm using Vordt's Great Hammer (we went through DS2 and I was playing dex - just felt like turning my brain off for once). I feel like I'm doing pretty well, but obviously my weapon has its drawbacks - huge stamina investment, ample time to roll away. Is there any tips and tricks I can learn to do better, or is this as good as it's gonna get? Is Vordt's alone viable or should I carry a back-up weapon?

[76561199092470268]

all greathammers are garbage for pvp but might can work during a gank

[Smaugi]

Walk up to somene , roll , wait , then attack.
80% won't expect that and will panic roll after you roll.
20% might attack but well happens.
Other than that be hard to predict

[76561199015476006]

Originally posted by No. 1 Lady Gaga Stan:

I wanna keep this thread short and simple. I'm co-oping with a friend of mine and going through DS3 together, and of course, invasions are gonna happen. The winrate currently (with me usually being the one 1v1ing them) is around 50/50 us vs the invader, and I'm using Vordt's Great Hammer (we went through DS2 and I was playing dex - just felt like turning my brain off for once). I feel like I'm doing pretty well, but obviously my weapon has its drawbacks - huge stamina investment, ample time to roll away. Is there any tips and tricks I can learn to do better, or is this as good as it's gonna get? Is Vordt's alone viable or should I carry a back-up weapon?

Just be a smelly worm and gank the invader so these poo invaders understand what an invasion is.

[nugdolf]

works

[76561199046499066]

The Ledo Hammer is the best weapon in the class and one of the best in the game, good in both pvp and pve, take it and enjoy it.

[76561199046499066]

Any other hammers or clubs are complete ♥♥♥♥, unworthy of attention in either pvp or pve.

[76561199092470268]

Originally posted by Свинорыл:

The Ledo Hammer is the best weapon in the class and one of the best in the game, good in both pvp and pve, take it and enjoy it.

Ledo's is truly the best greathammer but it is not one of the best weapons in the game, it is not even good to begin with

anyway while ganking a lot of stuff works + a lot of players are dogsht so you can even body them with bad weapons

[Smaugi]

Fun fact
Anything can work in pvp
As most players are bad/make mistakes
Most just don't want to admit

[76561199046499066]

Originally posted by qaq:

Originally posted by Свинорыл:

The Ledo Hammer is the best weapon in the class and one of the best in the game, good in both pvp and pve, take it and enjoy it.

Ledo's is truly the best greathammer but it is not one of the best weapons in the game, it is not even good to begin with

anyway while ganking a lot of stuff works + a lot of players are dogsht so you can even body them with bad weapons

tell this to the people who with Ledo take out several thousand damage for a couple of hits to bosses at high ng, the complexity of the hammer is only in the assembly: you need at least 40 strength, a lot of stamina and any dagger to finish off the fleeing invasion-everything!

[76561199092470268]

Originally posted by Свинорыл:

Originally posted by qaq:

Ledo's is truly the best greathammer but it is not one of the best weapons in the game, it is not even good to begin with

anyway while ganking a lot of stuff works + a lot of players are dogsht so you can even body them with bad weapons

tell this to the people who with Ledo take out several thousand damage for a couple of hits to bosses at high ng, the complexity of the hammer is only in the assembly: you need at least 40 strength, a lot of stamina and any dagger to finish off the fleeing invasion-everything!

It can work decently in team fights and we are talking about PvP not PvE, the hammer itself is bad if you use it in 1v1s, literally all your attacks can just be avoided on reaction, all your whiffs can be punished easily by a lot of weapons and you have no way to aggress at all.
The fact that most players are trash and panic roll everything or just run into your r1s, doesn't make the weapon good.

[Morshu-Maxxing]

So general consensus seems that GH is weak for PvP. Are there any good Great weapons for PvP, or am I going to have to break my build in order to do so?

[76561199046499066]

Originally posted by qaq:

Originally posted by Свинорыл:

tell this to the people who with Ledo take out several thousand damage for a couple of hits to bosses at high ng, the complexity of the hammer is only in the assembly: you need at least 40 strength, a lot of stamina and any dagger to finish off the fleeing invasion-everything!

It can work decently in team fights and we are talking about PvP not PvE, the hammer itself is bad if you use it in 1v1s, literally all your attacks can just be avoided on reaction, all your whiffs can be punished easily by a lot of weapons and you have no way to aggress at all.
The fact that most players are trash and panic roll everything or just run into your r1s, doesn't make the weapon good.

Ledo is the only hammer that allows you to carry out a spin strike with impunity, it can not be punished with any cold weapons, in a duel you should always start the attack with a spin, and light side strikes should only be done in a clinch or in the continuation of a combo, the only problem with it is fans of tumbling behind their backs, against them you need to play without capture

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And, yes, Vordt-is a full s h i t.

[Edwin VanCleef]

Great weapons works well with a fast weapon in the other hand

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it's not good for 1v1s... most invaders know how to punish big weapons easy with spacing, but you might get away with it in a 2v1.

you can get away with a lot of ♥♥♥♥ in a gank situation and I bet thats why most people like to do that, otherwise we'd all be using shields, straightswords, murky daggers and curved swords all the time...