Best way to avoid cheaters in coop?

[Coyote]

So i just started playing the game with my sister and we are in first area and we cant play for a single minute without getting invaded by someone who used a gamesave editor and just gave themselves late-game items and boosts.

Most of these people dont even take damage and just kill everyone in 1 hit.


Obviously there is no challenge here its just instant death... So after this happening around 14 times we just quit playing for the night.
If this didnt happen so often i would attempt to kick them off a cliff or whatever, but we get invaded instantly... Nonstop.


I thought about it for a bit last night and was wondering if we should just download some random hack and allow ourselves to get caught so we can go to the cheater server and just coop in there?
I reckon there are not many invaders since they just want to prey on legit people starting out since they are all cowards.

Wondering what you guys think and what is your experience playing in the cheater server in this regard? Thanks.

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I know PVP Watchdog is highly recommended, it allows you to remove cheaters from your world and stop items being injected into your inventory.

[Coyote]

Originally posted by ReHonored:

https://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls3/mods/352 - it can also auto-kick if you configure it.

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1383615497

Might try this since pvp watchdog is apparently broken right now and needs updated.
Hope it works! Thanks.

[donque666]

Originally posted by ReHonored:

Originally posted by Coyotekins:

Might try this since pvp watchdog is apparently broken right now and needs updated.
Hope it works! Thanks.

How is pvp watchdog broken? Why does it need an update? The game itself didn't receive updates for years.

I don't know go on the nexus page there is a bug with the lastest version but couldn't remember

[Coyote]

Originally posted by ReHonored:

How is pvp watchdog broken? Why does it need an update? The game itself didn't receive updates for years.

According to the nexus page there are crashes and several other issues involved with aspects of the mod not functioning as intended any longer.

The mod dev themselves are talking about updating it soon.

[Tao314zdin]

Originally posted by Coyotekins:

According to the nexus page there are crashes and several other issues involved with aspects of the mod not functioning as intended any longer.

The mod dev themselves are talking about updating it soon.

The biggest issue with the latest WD is that it makes users immune to blood/poison infused weapons. But you can not download that any more from the nexus page.

Version before that (which is currently available) does not detect unscaled phantoms (which is a big drawback for invaders), but otherwise is more-or-less fine (few specific bugs but they do not affect majority of the players).

[Doof]

I used to play with friends alot, something we did all the time was start new characters to level together and trade them the best armor and weapons right at high wall of lothric, which is not cheating, and this may be what those "hackers" are doing instead of using a cheat

[Qethzunsahrot]

Greetings. In DSIII, if you are embered, you can be invaded and summon phantoms, however, if you die with an invader in your world, you will recieve a ~15 minute grace period where you cannot be invaded, UNLESS, you use the dried finger item. nearly all high wall invaders are twinked out scum invaders with no life other than bullying new players, but these invasions happen less if you are alone, or not at all if unembered.

If you intend to play co-op, DO NOT use the dried finger item, and don't quit the game during an invasion, dying will give you that grace period. 15 minutes should be ample time to progress from bonfire to bonfire, allowing you to complete zones, even if interrupted by invaders. Furthermore, the twink problem mostly subsides by around the 4th region of the game, as the advantage it provides isn't as absurdly broken like high wall. Stay on your course, and you'll be able to progress. Regardless, you know these people who only invade at the first area with op gear have no skill, you're better than them and you're a fresh install.

This all being said, if the problem persists, you could summon an overleveled phantom yourself just to deal with them, though I don't recommend this, since you'll have to learn pvp at some point.

[☀️Beaxboy]

Gravity and ladders

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Chundel M'Caw:

I used to play with friends alot, something we did all the time was start new characters to level together and trade them the best armor and weapons right at high wall of lothric, which is not cheating, and this may be what those "hackers" are doing instead of using a cheat

Im new to this game so i dont know for sure.. But when the dragon on the wall hits him for 150 damage and it doesnt take any of his health off his lifebar that seems very suspect to me. That means he has at least over 3000 hp at level 12.

We also hit him around 30 times in total and it didnt do anything to him. He killed all of us in 1 hit each.

He just ran towards us, not even trying to dodge or roll as we hit him.
It was stupid.

[Coyote]

Originally posted by ☀️Beaxboy:

Gravity and ladders

This would be great idea if i wasnt getting invaded 20 times in a 5 hour session of playing.
In dark souls 1 i managed to kick 1 hacker off a cliff once... Its not an easy thing to do when they know what your doing and they have infinite stamina and can kill you in 1 hit, firing infinite homing magic and stuff at you entire time lol.

Even if i did it. I would just get invaded again :l

Ill just hope they dont have hacks that allow them to invade at any level.. ill try to outlevel all these people going after low levels and see if that helps us.

[Qethzunsahrot]

Originally posted by Coyotekins:

Originally posted by Chundel M'Caw:

I used to play with friends alot, something we did all the time was start new characters to level together and trade them the best armor and weapons right at high wall of lothric, which is not cheating, and this may be what those "hackers" are doing instead of using a cheat

Im new to this game so i dont know for sure.. But when the dragon on the wall hits him for 150 damage and it doesnt take any of his health off his lifebar that seems very suspect to me. That means he has at least over 3000 hp at level 12.

We also hit him around 30 times in total and it didnt do anything to him. He killed all of us in 1 hit each.

He just ran towards us, not even trying to dodge or roll as we hit him.
It was stupid.

Hmm.. seem like you got full blown cheaters too.. you don't see all too many of those, mostly just cheaters who abuse game glitches like animation canceling, but uh.. yeah, not all too much you can do against those kind of people. Open "recently played with" go to their profile, and block them, maybe report if you care to do so, so you can't encounter them again ingame

[Scuzz]

So today I was summoned into the bonfire outside the Archives by two guys who were just staying there so they could attract invaders and kill them. Finally an invader who had died to us a few times came back with infinite health, and he finally ended their little game. I don't blame that guy for cheating.

[kledilacej99]

Invaders ruining the fun you have with pve coop is the worst aspect of the game, especially when one of you is new

[feena]

OP, we've all been there. First few areas are twink/cheater infested as you've experienced. Without resorting to external programs, here are a few tips that may help:

1. SHORTCUTS (OFF-line): Unlocking area shortcuts will allow the host to make a mad dash to the boss, sending the invader home.

3. BANISH; QUIT and RELOAD, then RESUMMON (ON-line): Having made it to the boss, the host can use the BLACK SEPARATION CRYSTAL to banish their helper (if so desired) so that the host can quit the game. Remember, the host can't quit unless they're alone. Upon reload, the host will spawn right in front of the boss fog wall, allowing them to backtrack the area to resummon their helper. Alternatively, the host does not have to use the Black Separation Crystal to banish; however, know that if the boss is killed, the host can't summon phantoms in the area anymore.

3. WotB COVENANT (ON-line): Equip the "Way of the Blue" covenant ASAP. This will allow blue phantoms to summon automatically into the host's world whenever an invader appears. Blue phantoms will not always be helpful, but they can at least keep the invader distracted.

4. HIDE and/or RUN (ON-line): Realistically, red phantoms invade at inopportune moments, so hiding is recommended at times. Some GESTURES are really helpful for this. If you have the WotB covenant equipped, hiding (or running) will also buy you time as blue phantom auto-summoning isn't instant. Some invaders also get bored and leave when hosts and their summons are behaving "cowardly," or "passively."

5. UNDER-LEVEL or OVER-LEVEL (soul or weapon levels): Specific soul level ranges are optimal for certain areas in regards to multiplayer. For instance, the High Wall of Lothric gets a lot of activity for players between levels 1 - 12. In light of this, the farther the host is outside of this range, the less likely they will be invaded. Generally, high level hosts in the early areas OR low level hosts in the later areas experience less invasions.

Likewise, weapon upgrade levels matter for multiplayer matchmaking. Generally, a host with a HIGH soul level AND a LOW weapon level (or vice versa) will experience less invasions as well.

Anyways, it's a jungle out there. There's no shame in surviving at all costs. So be cheesy, cowardly, or cheap--anything goes.

[quacksouls]

Want to reduce/prevent invasions? These might help:

1. https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/3995220924719030912/
   
2. https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/6rd4pr/mini_guide_how_to_minimize_the_chance_of_getting/