Mages viable?

[Sofia]

My favorite sort of build in any souls game has always been sorceries. But a lot of friends, and a few threads have mentioned mages being absolute garbage.

I don't care about pvp, I don't invade, and I generally just stand there and die when i am invaded, I play souls games for the PvE.

Are mages at all viable in this game? I was thinking the combination of spook/hidden body could be fun to play with, but not if being a mage makes bossing impossible.

[Shard of Manus]

No. Magic is still easy mode.

[Zacharoni]

Everything is viable

Yeah preety much an OP meta build

[TrueArchery]

Yes, they are, very viable actually, but they need much investment, stat- and equipment-wise. At the beginning of the game, they suck compared to a spellsword. Also due to the lack of good spells.

[Sofia]

any specific builds that work? MGS any good in this game?Or maybe the crystal sages rapier?

[TrueArchery]

Hidden Body + Spook is great, btw. But mostly because you can just run past everything so easily what makes the game kinda boring. It's more like a boss-rush then.

[Sikkens]

For PvE they re as viable as anything really. The complains are mostly for 1v1 duels,but with the arena (if you have DLC) they are pretty good in brawl modes.

[foofighter_ii]

why you stand there while being invaded? If you have sorceries, you can bully them and make it a funny experience. Just use the spell that makes you invisible or transform in an environment object. You can hide and let invaders waste their precious time (or make traps, disguise and use a seed of tree of giants to watch them being attacked by mobs)

[Sofia]

Now I just need to find a build that works.

[Marty]

Build: SL 120 Starting class sorcerer
VIG 40
ATN 30
END 25-35
VIT 7
STR 8
DEX 12
FTH 7
INT 60

Logan's staff as a catalist, raw rapier buffed with crystal magic weapon for serious time and crystal infused shortsword as a sidearm. Dusk crown and the dragon rings for damage, sage's ring for cast speed and it's good to have candlestick at hand to further boost sorcery.

Not sure if the stats I listed actually add up to SL 120 but should be close enough, maybe some points off at END and VIG.

[Facu]

Sorceries always was viable, but the ppl want some 1 shot everything....

[Aetrion]

The only real issue with sorcery in this game is that your gear is largely predetermined, because you really have to stack all the various things that boost sorceries and cast speed to get top notch damage out of it. Especially if you try to play the whole 120 meta you're basically locked into a specific set of rings and items from the getgo.

[Sofia]

what staff should i bew using?> i see a lot of people saying court wizards staff, but ive seen people do ridiculous damage with the sage's crystal staff

[goka9696]

Originally posted by Ketlyn:

My favorite sort of build in any souls game has always been sorceries. But a lot of friends, and a few threads have mentioned mages being absolute garbage.

I don't care about pvp, I don't invade, and I generally just stand there and die when i am invaded, I play souls games for the PvE.

Are mages at all viable in this game? I was thinking the combination of spook/hidden body could be fun to play with, but not if being a mage makes bossing impossible.

In Dark Souls 3?

No.

Magic is too weak here.

[Facu]

Originally posted by goka9696:

Originally posted by Ketlyn:

My favorite sort of build in any souls game has always been sorceries. But a lot of friends, and a few threads have mentioned mages being absolute garbage.

I don't care about pvp, I don't invade, and I generally just stand there and die when i am invaded, I play souls games for the PvE.

Are mages at all viable in this game? I was thinking the combination of spook/hidden body could be fun to play with, but not if being a mage makes bossing impossible.

In Dark Souls 3?

No.

Magic is too weak here.

Git gud son, what are you? A dex curved sword casul? Sorcery is viable and can be super strong...

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=786560238

[goka9696]

Originally posted by Facu:

Originally posted by goka9696:

In Dark Souls 3?

No.

Magic is too weak here.

Git gud son, what are you? A dex curved sword casul? Sorcery is viable and can be super strong...

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=786560238

Not really, no.

Good sorceries don't come until you get pretty far into the game, and early spells are way too weak. You can't play the game with magic-only like you could in DS1 or DS2, you still have to use conventional weapons.