What's Friede's whole deal really?

[Varmint]

I mean, i know that she doesn't want the painted world of ariandel to burn away and all but... why? how does she profit from this? why does she care so much about it?

[Acolyte]

Messaggio originale di obidogo:

Messaggio originale di BlobMan32:

he is the "keeper" of the painted world, assigned by Gael to look over it. the previous world had rotted, so he was the one who revived it and attempted to protect it.

from the lore section of the Fandom page:

Ariandel is the keeper of the painted world, thought to have been the most recent one to restore it after the previous one rotted (possibly the Painted World of Ariamis).[1] When he met the Unkindled Friede, she convinced him to forgo the destruction of his rotting world, and to stifle the flame that would burn it to be replaced by a new world by the next restorer, choosing to rot together.[2]

He constantly flails himself, bleeding onto the flame, to prevent the fire from burning his world, for he used blood in the restoration, and only that blood could prevent the fire from blazing again.[1] When Friede's blood flows to the bowl containing the flame, the sight of her corpse enrages Ariandel, causing him to break free and strike the bowl against her unkindled blood to spark the flame and revive her by restoring her ember as an unkindled.

Once he dies, he declares the prophecy of the two ash and the flame fulfilled, and even after they both die, it stays burning strong.

That's complicated

as all souls lore is. lol

[Blonde Travolta]

Nah,I prefer to start from the fundamentals. Let's clear first those before we transcend to answering Ariandel.

First of all, what is a painted world and how Priscilla fits into it inside Anor Londo ?

[Acolyte]

Messaggio originale di obidogo:

Nah,I prefer to start from the fundamentals. Let's clear first those before we transcend to answering Ariandel.

First of all, what is a painted world and how Priscilla fits into it inside Anor Londo ?

painted worlds are magic pocket-dimension things that have been in the series multiple times. originally made by Ariamis, with magic and soul-infused blood or something of the sorts. Gael wants to make one too, in ds3, which is why he's trying to commit mass genocide to get the finest blood possible. to create a painted world that doesn't constantly fall apart and rot, unlike Ariamis's. he didn't infuse it with enough blood, so ariandel had to bear the pain to keep it from rotting.

priscilla carried the magical doll thing, which is a key to the painting. much like Gael's cloth. the creator decides what is the key to the painting. it was meant to hide priscilla in the first place after all, so naturally the key would be one of her most precious possessions.

[Sure, Not]

is it possible that BloodBorne is Gael painted world? i wonder

[Blonde Travolta]

So the painted world is a magical construct of high mages, possible from Vinheim. ANd somehow they tamed semi-gods in it. Like all crazy mages they wanted to create alternate universe maybe

[Blonde Travolta]

If painted world is a magical construct, I would expect finding there high mages. But instead you find there a pyro disciples

[Acolyte]

Messaggio originale di obidogo:

So the painted world is a magical construct of high mages, possible from Vinheim. ANd somehow they tamed semi-gods in it. Like all crazy mages they wanted to create alternate universe maybe

yup. the alternate-world thing is genius. mostly because of course, the world is constantly at the risk of dying because of war and the fire going out. foolproof way of being able to survive an apocalypse. or almost, had it not been for their mistakes. Gael coming in for the rescue tho, he's got the right idea.

[Sure, Not]

i mean, the painted world made by using gael blood :p

[Blonde Travolta]

Because of pyro presence in it, could this alt universe be actually work of the bed of chaos.

Plus you see Ariandel himself deals in fire

[SadiaMoon]

Friede is the 3rd sister of the founders of the Sable Church of Londor (other two are Yulia and LIliane), servants of the primordial serpent Kaathe, whom strive to eradicate the flame and bring upon the age of dark. The fire of Ariandel is about to fade, which would bring an age of dark.

[Blonde Travolta]

The problem withthese 2 dlcs is that we cannot establish logical connection and make a valid structural base.

It is a fantasy game we can deal with it, but the lack of logical connection is the confusing part

[Blonde Travolta]

You know what, while we ponder about the logic of DS,I ma gonna beat someoneass at Undead Arena

[Scraps]

I'm going to reply to the op exclusively:

Ask yourself this: Why does Gwyn want the Age of Fire to persist and essentially be on life support?

Ashes of Ariandel has strong parallels to the world of Lordran/Lothric. Friede, like Gwyn, founded rule over her land and is doing her best to preserve it. However, once it was time for the painting to move on, Friede very likely feared the transition, much like Gwyn's fear of the Age of Man. So she imprisoned Ariandel in hopes to maintain the painting, regardless of the rot that comes. Gwyn preserves the Age of Fire, regardless of the chaos that comes. And once everything is settled and is burning away? The citizens are grateful, even giving you a titanite slab, that's nothing to scoff at.

As the Corvian Settler says: "When the world rots, we set it afire. For the sake of the next world. It's the one thing we do right, unlike those fools on the outside." This can be interpreted as a direct reference to the Age of Fire and the people maintaining it.

AoA as a whole is telling you that in the grand scheme of things, you should let the world die and move on.