DARK SOULS™ III

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Gladius Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:25am
ariandel dlc , enemies feel waaaay above my level
im around level 75 and im using some pyromancies as a cleric im also focused on using some flame mace... now my problem is nothing dies easily thats the whole problem basically
i need to 4-5 shot a normal wolf and those axe guys are boss fights for real...

what level do i have to be to properly fight them lol? one mistake and im one-shot kill...

should i contrinue the dlc? this whole time im mostly trying to run away from fights since i know i cant win most fights..even the trees take 7-8 hits to die with a flame mace +7...

I dont like the dlc only because its imposible to clear an area from all enemies as i have a tedancy to do in souls.. i dont think i would do much even if i was level 150 lol
Last edited by Gladius; Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:27am
Originally posted by strike478:
You remind me this tale of chick who wanted to have tails, wings, pecks, legs of other birds and became very clumsy near the end.
I dont want to spoil you rest of this story but if you want to : on the last page chick learns that it is the best to be yourself and combining too much dvantages puts you at disadvantage

You were advised well but here is mine opinion what you can do:
1.Get yourself a weapon which naturally scales with faith/intelligence. Some boss weapons do, some unique weapons also and some normal weapons dropping from regular enemies which you can have many units of even in 1st playthrough. Normal weapon usually can be adapted to scale with various stats through infusion. Visit wiki and make sure infusion you use will do more good than harm. +8/+9 weapon is very good idea.
2. Your build is bad. Shortest route to make it good is to use pyromancy. Pyromancy works best when you have roughly equall stats in intelligence and faith. If you can visit smouldering lake and get soul of the king boss it can be turned into one of best pyro spells (Chaos bed vestiges).
There also other builds without CBV but it is easy and reliable. Dont worry about time spent on leveling Ariandel seems to be designed for characters at level 90-105.

So just go back to base game advance in base and come back when you are ready.
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Malu Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:27am 
What level is your weapon? And did you level up Stenght, dex etc?
Gladius Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by Malu:
What level is your weapon? And did you level up Stenght, dex etc?
https://imgur.com/a/BzMzkWN
Malu Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:38am 
Here's why you're doing poor damage: you are using a Fire weapon (which has no scaling, thus doesn't benefit from your stats)
But, even if you had an other weapon, your stats are spread thin. If you want to go Pyro, you should probably focus on Int and Faith only and infuse your mace with Chaos or Dark. If you don't want to respec, at least infuse your mace with Crystal (becasue your higher stat is Intelligence) or Heavy (and use it two handed so you get a 50% strenght bonus). Upgrade weapon level also matters. Ideally you should have at least a +8 in Ariandel.
Gladius Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by Malu:
Here's why you're doing poor damage: you are using a Fire weapon (which has no scaling, thus doesn't benefit from your stats)
But, even if you had an other weapon, your stats are spread thin. If you want to go Pyro, you should probably focus on Int and Faith only and infuse your mace with Chaos or Dark. If you don't want to respec, at least infuse your mace with Crystal (becasue your higher stat is Intelligence) or Heavy (and use it two handed so you get a 50% strenght bonus). Upgrade weapon level also matters. Ideally you should have at least a +8 in Ariandel.
i have a magic infuse dark blade ill try to upgrade it further but i dont think ill do much difference here
Malu Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:44am 
Well, you are kinda under-equipped for the area anyway. As I said, a +8 weapon it's the minimum requirement for the place (unless you know what you are doing).
If you managed to find the respec place (not going to spoil where or what it is in case you didn't find it, if you want to know just google it) you could consider respecing.
EF_Neo1st Apr 16, 2019 @ 6:55am 
You are lvl 73 . . .
With 23 STR
20 INT
32 Faith
using weapon modified to dont scale with any of your stats

Yes, game look like hell.
Even when I was lvl 45 there these knights took me 3 hits to kil (almost 2 hits), or 2 backstabs, at lvl 50 they take 2 hits to defeat, 1 backstab . . . because I am full STR with no health using a Greataxe modified to be full STR stat based.

By your INT and Faith you should go pyromancer skills and use weapon only for its base stats (and this weapon dont have good base stats btw).
Your weapon have STR 12 as requirement, you have 23 STR.
With 24 STR you can use Great Machete (with 21 you can use Spiked Mace) that deal much more damage in 1 hit and give you more chance to take distance to use your pyro skills as it tend to stagger (most smaller enemies are staggered in 1 hit and these weapons have better range, just slower attack animation).

Or . . you can change your stats at rosaria, get only 12 STR and spend the other 11 points at something else.
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strike478 Apr 16, 2019 @ 7:13am 
You remind me this tale of chick who wanted to have tails, wings, pecks, legs of other birds and became very clumsy near the end.
I dont want to spoil you rest of this story but if you want to : on the last page chick learns that it is the best to be yourself and combining too much dvantages puts you at disadvantage

You were advised well but here is mine opinion what you can do:
1.Get yourself a weapon which naturally scales with faith/intelligence. Some boss weapons do, some unique weapons also and some normal weapons dropping from regular enemies which you can have many units of even in 1st playthrough. Normal weapon usually can be adapted to scale with various stats through infusion. Visit wiki and make sure infusion you use will do more good than harm. +8/+9 weapon is very good idea.
2. Your build is bad. Shortest route to make it good is to use pyromancy. Pyromancy works best when you have roughly equall stats in intelligence and faith. If you can visit smouldering lake and get soul of the king boss it can be turned into one of best pyro spells (Chaos bed vestiges).
There also other builds without CBV but it is easy and reliable. Dont worry about time spent on leveling Ariandel seems to be designed for characters at level 90-105.

So just go back to base game advance in base and come back when you are ready.
Last edited by strike478; Apr 16, 2019 @ 7:17am
Alice Apr 16, 2019 @ 7:56am 
Uh, 70 is wAY too high level for ariandel. You should be taking on ashes at like level 30 +4 Weapons. Well, with a focused build. Yours sounds like it's all over the place.
Last edited by Alice; Apr 16, 2019 @ 7:58am
EF_Neo1st Apr 16, 2019 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by Chimera:
Uh, 70 is wAY too high level for ariandel. You should be taking on ashes at like level 30 +4 Weapons. Well, with a focused build. Yours sounds like it's all over the place.
That also have a name . .masochism . . .
Lvl 30 with +4 weapons mean low damage weapons and each enemy is like 3 or 4 backstabs to kill (or you just run past avoiding everything to next bonfire than to Sir Vilhelm, and he will be a pain healling over and over . . . then Friede, where she will also be a pain taking much longer than needed to be killed 3 times).
Alice Apr 16, 2019 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:
Originally posted by Chimera:
Uh, 70 is wAY too high level for ariandel. You should be taking on ashes at like level 30 +4 Weapons. Well, with a focused build. Yours sounds like it's all over the place.
That also have a name . .masochism . . .
Lvl 30 with +4 weapons mean low damage weapons and each enemy is like 3 or 4 backstabs to kill (or you just run past avoiding everything to next bonfire than to Sir Vilhelm, and he will be a pain healling over and over . . . then Friede, where she will also be a pain taking much longer than needed to be killed 3 times).
Low Damage? I have like 300 AR on my Mace. That's plenty.
EF_Neo1st Apr 16, 2019 @ 8:28am 
Originally posted by Chimera:
Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:
That also have a name . .masochism . . .
Lvl 30 with +4 weapons mean low damage weapons and each enemy is like 3 or 4 backstabs to kill (or you just run past avoiding everything to next bonfire than to Sir Vilhelm, and he will be a pain healling over and over . . . then Friede, where she will also be a pain taking much longer than needed to be killed 3 times).
Low Damage? I have like 300 AR on my Mace. That's plenty.
With 300 damage it was taking me like I said . . . 3 or 4 backstabs to these knights at the starting area . . . to kill each of them with 3 or 4 backstabs start to become masochism (and the area at Snowy Mountain Pass bonfire that are a lot of these . . . like, each one of them 3 or 4 backstabs is really a pain . . . the claw things açlso take a lot to die and Sir Vilhelm . . . it is like an invite to either lvl up or, when u get past Vilhelm just head to Friede, skip everything)
(NOTE: I dont like to skip everything, I like to kill everything . . . such a low damage for me is a "no go", I dont have this kind of patience).
Alice Apr 16, 2019 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:
Originally posted by Chimera:
Low Damage? I have like 300 AR on my Mace. That's plenty.
With 300 damage it was taking me like I said . . . 3 or 4 backstabs to these knights at the starting area . . . to kill each of them with 3 or 4 backstabs start to become masochism (and the area at Snowy Mountain Pass bonfire that are a lot of these . . . like, each one of them 3 or 4 backstabs is really a pain . . . the claw things açlso take a lot to die and Sir Vilhelm . . . it is like an invite to either lvl up or, when u get past Vilhelm just head to Friede, skip everything)
(NOTE: I dont like to skip everything, I like to kill everything . . . such a low damage for me is a "no go", I dont have this kind of patience).
Then this isn't the game for you. if you NEED to one or twoshot enemie, you really should go play warframe where you can do that. This is the Hard Game, you don't just 'win', you need to work for it. If you're not willing to work for dark souls, why should it work for you?
SiFi Apr 16, 2019 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Chimera:
Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:
With 300 damage it was taking me like I said . . . 3 or 4 backstabs to these knights at the starting area . . . to kill each of them with 3 or 4 backstabs start to become masochism (and the area at Snowy Mountain Pass bonfire that are a lot of these . . . like, each one of them 3 or 4 backstabs is really a pain . . . the claw things açlso take a lot to die and Sir Vilhelm . . . it is like an invite to either lvl up or, when u get past Vilhelm just head to Friede, skip everything)
(NOTE: I dont like to skip everything, I like to kill everything . . . such a low damage for me is a "no go", I dont have this kind of patience).
Then this isn't the game for you. if you NEED to one or twoshot enemie, you really should go play warframe where you can do that. This is the Hard Game, you don't just 'win', you need to work for it. If you're not willing to work for dark souls, why should it work for you?

And elitists like you need to be quiet. Shove off.
EF_Neo1st Apr 16, 2019 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Chimera:
Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:
With 300 damage it was taking me like I said . . . 3 or 4 backstabs to these knights at the starting area . . . to kill each of them with 3 or 4 backstabs start to become masochism (and the area at Snowy Mountain Pass bonfire that are a lot of these . . . like, each one of them 3 or 4 backstabs is really a pain . . . the claw things açlso take a lot to die and Sir Vilhelm . . . it is like an invite to either lvl up or, when u get past Vilhelm just head to Friede, skip everything)
(NOTE: I dont like to skip everything, I like to kill everything . . . such a low damage for me is a "no go", I dont have this kind of patience).
Then this isn't the game for you. if you NEED to one or twoshot enemie, you really should go play warframe where you can do that. This is the Hard Game, you don't just 'win', you need to work for it. If you're not willing to work for dark souls, why should it work for you?
I dont need to 1shot everything, but to fight every enemy like a mini-boss is not needed.
2, 3 normal hits to kill the normal enemy on area, ok. 5, 6 or even 7 to 8 normal hits, 3 to 4 backstabs, to kill 1 of the normal enemy at area . . . sorry, it is about patience not difficulty.
(btw, untill I figured I could lvl up my weapon and that I could lvl up estus AND that my weapon was not taking advantage of any of my stats because the first thing I made was turning it raw . . I was behind Abyss Watchers with lvl 1 weapon where every enemy was like some 7 or 8 hits . . . very fun to play a game where u need 8 hits to kill a Basilisk, 13 to 15 hits to kill a Darkwraith and 25 to kill a Black Knight . . very fun indeed . . . ).
Last edited by EF_Neo1st; Apr 16, 2019 @ 9:01am
strike478 Apr 16, 2019 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by Chimera:
Uh, 70 is wAY too high level for ariandel. You should be taking on ashes at like level 30 +4 Weapons. Well, with a focused build. Yours sounds like it's all over the place.
It sounds like job for somebody who already finished game few times but he decided to start new character.
Yeah this DLC can be beaten without levelling at all but its job for the experts.
Fextralife states it requires level 100. More advanced player surely can do it earlier dying 10+ times between each bonefire but whats the point? At level 100 you will still see many summon signs, perhaps even more than below 100. Fear of being overleveled for given location is silly. Even if you are level 80 and stand next to Vordt gate you can just ask somebody here in discussions to join you. All that has to be done is setting password and you can finish first playthrough at level 500 if you wish so.
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