Can someone please explain the Demon Princes lore to me?

[Old Wizened Fingers]

The Demon Prince is my joint favourite boss with Pontiff Sulyvahn, and i'm desperately trying to understand his lore but i just don't get it. In his Soul description it states; "The Demons birthed from a common chaos, share almost everything between them, even the pride of their prince, and his near faded flame. So that the last Demon standing may rekindle it." But I do not understand, is The Demon Prince a entity that can be passed into other Demons? Or was he an actual physical Demon and his Soul lived on or something like that? Also do we fight a more powerful version of the Prince Lorian fought due to the whole Chaos Flame being focused into him or a weaker version due to the Chaos Flame dying out? If someone could just sum up his lore for me generally i would be eternally grateful, i can't find any video's on it or anything? Plz help

[Hunubul]

The Prince is a Demon. We fight the same one Lorian did. The chaos flame has died. It has to be rekindled the same way the flame needs to be rekindled in order for life to continue. The prince would be capable of doing that, in theory.

BTW this is pretty obvious if you know how the world of DS works. Seeing as you played DS1 as well this should've not been a problem.

[Old Wizened Fingers]

The Frog Who Ate Ponion님이 먼저 게시:

The Prince is a Demon. We fight the same one Lorian did. The chaos flame has died. It has to be rekindled the same way the flame needs to be rekindled in order for life to continue. The prince would be capable of doing that, in theory.

BTW this is pretty obvious if you know how the world of DS works. Seeing as you played DS1 as well this should've not been a problem.

I know very little of the Demon's and wasn't aware they could rekindle the Chaos Flame in the same sense we rekindle the First Flame, also i was under the impression that a flame could only be kindled when you come into direct contact with it?

[Hunubul]

Manus, Father of the Abyss님이 먼저 게시:

The Frog Who Ate Ponion님이 먼저 게시:

The Prince is a Demon. We fight the same one Lorian did. The chaos flame has died. It has to be rekindled the same way the flame needs to be rekindled in order for life to continue. The prince would be capable of doing that, in theory.

BTW this is pretty obvious if you know how the world of DS works. Seeing as you played DS1 as well this should've not been a problem.

I know very little of the Demon's and wasn't aware they could rekindle the Chaos Flame in the same sense we rekindle the First Flame, also i was under the impression that a flame could only be kindled when you come into direct contact with it?

DS1 explains demons pretty well. Bed of Chaos is a boss there after all (tho not a very good one...). The chaos flame is the same as the first flame, only it's artificial. It works the same way.

And the direct contact part... the chaos flame wasn't rekindled so it doesn't matter how it works, it didn't happen.

[Old Wizened Fingers]

The Frog Who Ate Ponion님이 먼저 게시:

Manus, Father of the Abyss님이 먼저 게시:

I know very little of the Demon's and wasn't aware they could rekindle the Chaos Flame in the same sense we rekindle the First Flame, also i was under the impression that a flame could only be kindled when you come into direct contact with it?

DS1 explains demons pretty well. Bed of Chaos is a boss there after all (tho not a very good one...). The chaos flame is the same as the first flame, only it's artificial. It works the same way.

And the direct contact part... the chaos flame wasn't rekindled so it doesn't matter how it works, it didn't happen.

I still don't get it, how did the Demon Prince emerge? Put it into simple terms for a simpleton like me :)

[gackie]

Something's not quite right here.

[JuiceySpice]

Hat Skeleton!님이 먼저 게시:

Something's not quite right here.

I was confused for a second thinking hatty unfriended me then I looked closer at the profile picture

[Erudax]

This might be totally incorrect, but:
Demons share everything between them, right? It would make sense for the Demon Prince to be able to manifest if all demons except for one are killed.

Or perhaps the last living demon channels the Prince's power as he dies, allowing the Prince to control its body?

[Old Wizened Fingers]

Spooky From Hell님이 먼저 게시:

Hat Skeleton!님이 먼저 게시:

Something's not quite right here.

I was confused for a second thinking hatty unfriended me then I looked closer at the profile picture

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Old Wizened Fingers]

Rock Lizard님이 먼저 게시:

This might be totally incorrect, but:
Demons share everything between them, right? It would make sense for the Demon Prince to be able to manifest if all demons except for one are killed.

Or perhaps the last living demon channels the Prince's power as he dies, allowing the Prince to control its body?

I was thinking something along those lines but got a lot of disagreements so i posted it here.

[Blazing Black Dragon]

The Soul of the Demon Prince had a different description before the DLC went live. In it, it is mentioned that upon being defeated by Lorian, the Demon Prince retreated and lost the memory of the Chaos Flame burning within it, suggesting that the Demon Prince carried the remnants of the Chaos Flame and that it's defeat is the whole reason the demons are dying in the first place. In context with the current description, it could mean that the Demon Prince almost getting killed by Lorian made it split into two different beings, that had to share their power together and who recollect the memory of the Chaos Flame upon turning into the Demon Prince in 2nd phase.

[Old Wizened Fingers]

Archdemon님이 먼저 게시:

The Soul of the Demon Prince had a different description before the DLC went live. In it, it is mentioned that upon being defeated by Lorian, the Demon Prince retreated and lost the memory of the Chaos Flame burning within it, suggesting that the Demon Prince carried the remnants of the chaos flame within it and that it's defeat is the whole reason the demons are dying in the first place. In context with the current description, it could mean that the Demon Prince almost getting killed by Lorian made it split into two different beings, that had to share their power together and who recollect the memory of the Chaos Flame upon turning into the Demon Prince in 2nd phase.

There is a theory that the Demon in Pain is the one Lorian defeated while the Demon from Below is the one who corrupted the Old Iron King?

[Blazing Black Dragon]

Hat Skeleton!님이 먼저 게시:

Archdemon님이 먼저 게시:

The Soul of the Demon Prince had a different description before the DLC went live. In it, it is mentioned that upon being defeated by Lorian, the Demon Prince retreated and lost the memory of the Chaos Flame burning within it, suggesting that the Demon Prince carried the remnants of the chaos flame within it and that it's defeat is the whole reason the demons are dying in the first place. In context with the current description, it could mean that the Demon Prince almost getting killed by Lorian made it split into two different beings, that had to share their power together and who recollect the memory of the Chaos Flame upon turning into the Demon Prince in 2nd phase.

There is a theory that the Demon in Pain is the one Lorian defeated while the Demon from Below is the one who corrupted the Old Iron King?

It could be possible that the Demon in Pain is the one Lorian vanquished, but the second one is unlikely, since the Old Iron King Soul states that it was corrupted by the reincarnation of Lord Gwyns Lord Soul, tranforming his corpse into Ichorous Earth (the boss form of the Old Iron King you fight).

[Old Wizened Fingers]

How can the Demon Prince be rekindled if the Chaos Flame is all but dead?