Status effects are underpowered as ♥♥♥♥

[lordcrekit]

I have a poison/bleed katana and I hit this invader like 20 times with it and neither effect was applied
The enemy NPCs also don't get any effects at all
why is that gem even in the game it's a beginners trap

[76561198365681393]

Based on patch notes, they got nerf pretty hard. they were once useful, until someone complain about it and it becomes useless

[lordcrekit]

Originally posted by Mr. Red:

Based on patch notes, they got nerf pretty hard. they were once useful, until someone complain about it and it becomes useless

Ugh.. good to see they prefer to push changes without any actual thought like in ds2

[Velkhana's Summer]

There was no reason for nerf besides bleed in pve, so I'm not sure why they applied it to actualy characters instead of just pve monsters. And POISON?! OP and needing a NERF?? Typical FROM with their working as intended patches that limit weapon variety to as minimal as they can.

[Artek [General]]

It can sheese some enemies...
Also i believe there are stats that can improve the effect...
Also, probably like with many weapons, you should put the gem into a weapon that already has poison. Like, enhance what's already natural to the weapon.
That's how people do bleed-builds.
Also you must hit them in a quick succession or they will regenerate back all the status effect.

[y u do dis Fromsoft?]

poison was always useless in ds3, except for the final boss of the ringed city Gael .
bleed on the other hand was simply too strong and got nerfed. to use it now, you have to use a build dedicated to it, with luck and proper weapons for bleed buildup, still works fine for me.

[Hugh Mungus]

Poison/Bleed was nerfed but it's still possible to do real damage with them. You just need the quickest weapon you can get your hands on, no more katanas or CCS.

Basically, spec for 50~ LCK, 20ish STR and 40DEX. Use Poison Ghru Dagger to inflict poison (I've been able to poison dudes in the arena with 4 hits...that's like, one R1 spam) and then switch to a Blood Bandit Knife. GG. You've become cancer.

Poison is specially good if you hate reactive tryhards and ToD, the first takes free damage and the second is useless with poison.

[Sticky White Stuff]

Originally posted by y u do dis Fromsoft:

poison was always useless in ds3, except for the final boss of the ringed city Gael .
bleed on the other hand was simply too strong and got nerfed. to use it now, you have to use a build dedicated to it, with luck and proper weapons for bleed buildup, still works fine for me.

Well, for PvP yeah, for PvE nah. Any build can go with bleed and smash half the bosses with a resin on top of it.

Still, both can proc on a dedicated build, i have seen poison and bleed in the arena used against me, just not to a great effect due to having moss... but bleed just wrecks if they know what they are doing, poison kinda induces panic.

[Hugh Mungus]

Originally posted by GLUE:

Originally posted by y u do dis Fromsoft:

poison was always useless in ds3, except for the final boss of the ringed city Gael .
bleed on the other hand was simply too strong and got nerfed. to use it now, you have to use a build dedicated to it, with luck and proper weapons for bleed buildup, still works fine for me.

Well, for PvP yeah, for PvE nah. Any build can go with bleed and smash half the bosses with a resin on top of it.

Still, both can proc on a dedicated build, i have seen poison and bleed in the arena used against me, just not to a great effect due to having moss... but bleed just wrecks if they know what they are doing, poison kinda induces panic.

Funny how easy it is to acquire and use moss and how few people actually bring it or equip it.
Most people either don't use it (maybe don't even have it) or have it but haven't equipped it, so they go into menu to look for it during the fight. Killed plenty of people who I'm sure were in the menu sturggling to find the item, due to the lack of rolls and attacks, just leisurely back pedaling.

[Varagonax]

Originally posted by y u do dis Fromsoft:

poison was always useless in ds3, except for the final boss of the ringed city Gael .
bleed on the other hand was simply too strong and got nerfed. to use it now, you have to use a build dedicated to it, with luck and proper weapons for bleed buildup, still works fine for me.

scuze me... have you ever storytellers staffed the crystal sage? negates the need to fight him just run and hide tillhe drops

[lordcrekit]

Originally posted by Varagonax:

Originally posted by y u do dis Fromsoft:

poison was always useless in ds3, except for the final boss of the ringed city Gael .
bleed on the other hand was simply too strong and got nerfed. to use it now, you have to use a build dedicated to it, with luck and proper weapons for bleed buildup, still works fine for me.

scuze me... have you ever storytellers staffed the crystal sage? negates the need to fight him just run and hide tillhe drops

Crystal sage is a joke I don't even think it should count as a boss maybe a miniboss
I'm a total noob and got him on first try with my faith build of suckness+10

[Velkhana's Summer]

Frost is actually insane still. 3 hits procs it with vordts

[Velkhana's Summer]

plus flash frost is awesome spell to hit rollers with

[Kaizen]

Just a matter of time before frost gets hit too, enjoy it while you can, it will be ruined like bleed was

[Velkhana's Summer]

Originally posted by Gameopheliac:

Just a matter of time before frost gets hit too, enjoy it while you can, it will be ruined like bleed was

It's balanced though... It doesn't do that much hp or stam dmg, its just enough to be something special though. Its the fact that it looks awesome having snow and ice fall off your blade and still be meaningful enough to use. Unlike all my bleed and hollow characters deleted.

Also it doesnt scale with luck so its flat all the time

[Kaizen]

Doesn't matter, once it gets popular and too many people start using it on the yutubz, they'll destroy it.
That's why all this youtube ♥♥♥♥ is nothing but a curse