Stamina for Knight build a good idea?

[Ardenian]

I am very new to the DS series and this is my first DS game. Playing as a Knight and looking on a few guides, there appears to be a great variety of builds and I do feel a bit lost. For now, I decided to go with Vigor and Strength, in 1:1 ration, which works fine. I also dumped one or another point into Vitality.

My question concerns Endurance and thus Stamina. Fighting Vordt of the Boreal Valley, I was completely fine with my default Stamina, when being a bit careful. Hitting three times, rolling away, waiting for Stamina to refill and do that over and over again.

Now I wonder, is there any point in investing into Endurance when you play this game being careful, not bruteforcing your way, taking your time? Should I invest into Stamina to be able to hit more and add some more rolls?

Against common enemies, I sometimes run out of Stamina quickly because I hit, not really paying attention and then I cannot properly get distance between me and my enemy.

Is Endurance recommended for Knight builds and if so, to what extend?

[Arcane Intelligence]

If you are using shields, endurance is recommended.

[luminaxar]

On most of my midlevel (SL60) builds I'll keep the default stamina and just raise it with Prisoner's Chain and Ring of Favor. Since I mostly use smaller weapons I don't have issues with stamina management usually.

[Turks]

For me, if I can, I will trying let endurance on 40,
They can let you have more chance to attack or rolling,
More importantly, increase your fault tolerance. This is very important in pvp.
But if you are planning to play sl100/120/130 knight bulid PVP like me, it is best to only on to 35 and using prisoner's Chain.

[Ardenian]

Originally posted by Arcane Intelligence:

If you are using shields, endurance is recommended.

That's a good point, thank you. Using shields mainly for common enemies and not for bosses, so I am not sure if I actually need a shield or if I could go for a 2H weapon instead. If I do use a shield, I should also embrace it by providing enough Stamina, right?

Originally posted by Michalski:

On most of my midlevel (SL60) builds I'll keep the default stamina and just raise it with Prisoner's Chain and Ring of Favor. Since I mostly use smaller weapons I don't have issues with stamina management usually.

Thank you, good to know that small weapons don't require Stamina management, usually. I might think about using shield, though, so maybe this does weight into the Stamina.

Originally posted by CrowTurks:

For me, if I can, I will trying let endurance on 40,
They can let you have more chance to attack or rolling,
More importantly, increase your fault tolerance. This is very important in pvp.
But if you are planning to play sl100/120/130 knight bulid PVP like me, it is best to only on to 35 and using prisoner's Chain.

I agree with you, fault tolerance is very important, also for bosses which are most likely the main problem for me. Although some common enemies can be pretty tough, Lorthric Knights for instance. No idea how to proerly deal with them.

I will think about using 2H and not investing into Stamina or going shield + 1H and do investing into Stamina, thank you guys!

[Arcane Intelligence]

Originally posted by Ardenian:

Originally posted by Arcane Intelligence:

If you are using shields, endurance is recommended.

That's a good point, thank you. Using shields mainly for common enemies and not for bosses, so I am not sure if I actually need a shield or if I could go for a 2H weapon instead. If I do use a shield, I should also embrace it by providing enough Stamina, right?

Having lot of stamina is recommended when you use shields for blocking attacks (medium shields and greatshields).

Parrying shields and small shields are rarely used for blocking (atleast more than one hit at a time), so stamina isn´t as important.

Originally posted by Ardenian:

I will think about using 2H and not investing into Stamina or going shield + 1H and do investing into Stamina, thank you guys!

Do remember that 2-handed attacks do cost a little bit more stamina than 1-handed attacks.

For example you might be able to do 5 attacks with 1H or 4 attacks with 2H.

[Argstein]

you probably want approximately 25 endurance at SL120-125
i would fine tune it so you have the exact emount of endurance necessary to do 5 attacks with two-handed R1(if you normally go two-handed), the final attack being used with only a tiny pixel of stamina left, so that way your stat points are most efficient. just for an example: with 29 endurance i can do walk-up 5 R1s but it requires me 55 endurance to do 6 R1s.... so i think 5 R1s is enough for SL120-125 but if you are much higher SL then just do whatever you want for fun. use the restat trick at Rosaria to fine tune builds