Invasions are a complete waste of time

[Cryptdk]

Invasions are the worst part of the entire DS series hands down and should be OPTIONAL. It's not a matter of "git gud", I've been playing DS for years, but there's no real explanation as to why FROM never acknowledged the non-PvP players and added the true cooperative mode that they should have years ago. At this point, I'm spending more time dodging invasions than enjoying the actual game, and that's what's made me quit playing time and time again. The PvP isn't even good anymore, it's just a boring slog of parry-happy trolls and it's possibly the worst game mechanic that has ever existed in video gaming.

It completely slaughters any chance of an enjoyable co-op experience, especially just starting off where you have few embers and now you waste all this time getting merc'd by toxic players and farming yet more embers so that it can keep happening, it's basically like having a nice man tell you that he has candy in his van, but when you get in he just rapes you. It's not actually fun and it doesn't make for a good game, I consider it immersion-breaking and basically just avoid invasions at all costs now. I'M TIRED OF THEM PLEASE MAKE THEM STOP I DON'T WANT TO PVP ANYMORE YOU WIN FROM SOFTWARE PLEASE GIVE US ACTUAL COOP MODE YOU PRICKS.

[Das Big Hippo]

I have played every Souls game all the way back to Demon's on release. And I gotta say, the PvP is VERY rarely good. When you get the rare instance of no lag, no hacks, and so on, it's super fun. But you get such ridiculous lag 90% of the time that it's just not worth even trying. All of the possible build variety is what makes me really sad they didn't make the PvP great. There is just so much potential there. Sadly they didn't. It's laggy, it's one of the easiest game series to cheat in, and it's horribly unbalance throughout all games.

Oh well, offline mode is a thing. I never much cared for summoning companions. Occasionally lay down my summon stone to help others though.

[Danger Dwarf]

Believe it is a matter of git gud, parry is easily the most counterable thing in the game.

[VI]

wat r u ? casul ?

[I AM BAYTOR]

Just spend a day as a sunbro and you won't have to worry about embers. One day of real sunbro grinding and you'll be set with at least 20.

And that'll help you git gud. At least against bosses. Or it'll cripple you into relying on a second player to kite the boss like it kinda did me for a bit.

[Alice]

Except...Invasions happening during Coop is the point. Coop IS the 'Easymode' that casual players like you want, and fromsoftware programmed the game to put coopers on a higher priority list for invasions to counteract this.

Immersion breaking? Please. There are numerous NPC's who reference summoning phantoms and invading other players. DS1 Solaire straight up says 'yeah the timelines are crossed so you get some helpful some harmful ghosts you know things happen.' Khathee in ds1 is like 'here have a red eye go invade and steal humanity.'

Myazaki, the head dev, did not and never will desire for invasions to be optional. He, from bloodborne onward put invaders there to be a counterbalance to phantoms making the game too easy.

[Argstein]

Originally posted by Cryptdick:

Invasions are a complete waste of time

zzzz this thread is a complete waste of time

[Cryptdk]

^Dark Souls toxicity at its finest and most likely why the series is dead as ♥♥♥♥. They catered to the wrong fan-base, instead of the people who want to enjoy the game they listened to the people who want to ruin it for others. I don't really need to say more, the endless "git gud casul" drool from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like yourselves says it all for me.

PvP should've been optional, there's no debate on that. You don't need to FORCE pvp on players just to make it harder. I've killed countless invaders, the whole thing is BORING. YOU PEOPLE ARE BORING TO FIGHT. WE DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU ANYMORE, GO SOAK YOUR HEADS.

[Laati]

Invasions are essentially a balancing force towards co-op in the first place.

CO-OP makes the base game easier, so why not add something unpredictable into the mix?

It's a trade off. You could either take the increased health and summons but go against invaders.

Or keep your base health and go against the PVE.

Also, it isn't exactly immersion breaking, in fact it's interwoven into the lore.

[Danger Dwarf]

Originally posted by Cryptdick:

^Dark Souls toxicity at its finest and most likely why the series is dead as ♥♥♥♥. They catered to the wrong fan-base, instead of the people who want to enjoy the game they listened to the people who want to ruin it for others. I don't really need to say more, the endless "git gud casul" drool from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like yourselves says it all for me.

PvP should've been optional, there's no debate on that. You don't need to FORCE pvp on players just to make it harder. I've killed countless invaders, the whole thing is BORING. YOU PEOPLE ARE BORING TO FIGHT. WE DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU ANYMORE, GO SOAK YOUR HEADS.

PvP is optional, it's called offline mode nerd. Instead of thinking of Co-op and invasions as two seperate things, why don't you just group them under Multiplayer. You aren't getting one without the other.

[76561198836038854]

Originally posted by Cryptdick:

^Dark Souls toxicity at its finest and most likely why the series is dead as ♥♥♥♥. They catered to the wrong fan-base, instead of the people who want to enjoy the game they listened to the people who want to ruin it for others. I don't really need to say more, the endless "git gud casul" drool from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like yourselves says it all for me.

PvP should've been optional, there's no debate on that. You don't need to FORCE pvp on players just to make it harder. I've killed countless invaders, the whole thing is BORING. YOU PEOPLE ARE BORING TO FIGHT. WE DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU ANYMORE, GO SOAK YOUR HEADS.

Only in wax when I'm invading the Archives.

[Darth Invader]

I don't like being invaded either. But, I love to invade. Weird, eh?

[Hairy Pothead]

Invasions are one of the best features in souls-borne series and they are indeed optional just play offline :D :D

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

I agree, invasions do waste time. That's why I play offline

[Sin]

Originally posted by Bowsie:

I have played every Souls game all the way back to Demon's on release. And I gotta say, the PvP is VERY rarely good. When you get the rare instance of no lag, no hacks, and so on, it's super fun. But you get such ridiculous lag 90% of the time that it's just not worth even trying. All of the possible build variety is what makes me really sad they didn't make the PvP great. There is just so much potential there. Sadly they didn't. It's laggy, it's one of the easiest game series to cheat in, and it's horribly unbalance throughout all games.

Oh well, offline mode is a thing. I never much cared for summoning companions. Occasionally lay down my summon stone to help others though.

I quite enjoyed my time with DS 2 pvp (as long as it was not hacker..), and DS 1 was passable, but 3 ... 3 and I aren't getting along PvP wise. It's always the same boring ♥♥♥♥ with rolls and estus for years instead of days until they can land their 1 combo with the great sword / ugs or just unlock run around like sonic the hedgehog to hit you every now and then with a katana or straight sword. Haven't seen a spell using invader (apart form weapon buffs) in weeks .. so ..yeah .. I kinda agree :)

[Laati]

Originally posted by Sin:

Originally posted by Bowsie:

I have played every Souls game all the way back to Demon's on release. And I gotta say, the PvP is VERY rarely good. When you get the rare instance of no lag, no hacks, and so on, it's super fun. But you get such ridiculous lag 90% of the time that it's just not worth even trying. All of the possible build variety is what makes me really sad they didn't make the PvP great. There is just so much potential there. Sadly they didn't. It's laggy, it's one of the easiest game series to cheat in, and it's horribly unbalance throughout all games.

Oh well, offline mode is a thing. I never much cared for summoning companions. Occasionally lay down my summon stone to help others though.

I quite enjoyed my time with DS 2 pvp (as long as it was not hacker..), and DS 1 was passable, but 3 ... 3 and I aren't getting along PvP wise. It's always the same boring ♥♥♥♥ with rolls and estus for years instead of days until they can land their 1 combo with the great sword / ugs or just unlock run around like sonic the hedgehog to hit you every now and then with a katana or straight sword. Haven't seen a spell using invader (apart form weapon buffs) in weeks .. so ..yeah .. I kinda agree :)

1 is worse than 3 and 2 in every single way.