I already beat pontiff, is it safe to send Greirat to irithyll?

[Mikkor]

Any special precautions about that? I've had a character where he died because of this, even though I told patches where he went to.

[VideoGameHero]

Did you save siegward from the well

[Spogg]

i'm not sure but don't head towards the profaned capitol before pontif/anor londo that will load sigward into that area and greirat will die.

i would suggest sending him and then killing black sludge dude if he still dies then there was no way of saving him anyway.

as far as i know him dying in irithyll (so long as you grab his ashes) you only miss out on crossbow bolts, lightning erms and aluring skulls anyway.

[Mikkor]

Originally posted by 👌Autistic Horse👌:

i'm not sure but don't head towards the profaned capitol before pontif/anor londo that will load sigward into that area and greirat will die.

i would suggest sending him and then killing black sludge dude if he still dies then there was no way of saving him anyway.

as far as i know him dying in irithyll (so long as you grab his ashes) you only miss out on crossbow bolts, lightning erms and aluring skulls anyway.

Black sludge dude? Demon king or aldrich?

Yea but I want him alive for sentimental reasons lol, but I also want the dragonslayer arrows he'll sell after irithyll.

[Spogg]

Originally posted by Mikkor:

Originally posted by 👌Autistic Horse👌:

i'm not sure but don't head towards the profaned capitol before pontif/anor londo that will load sigward into that area and greirat will die.

i would suggest sending him and then killing black sludge dude if he still dies then there was no way of saving him anyway.

as far as i know him dying in irithyll (so long as you grab his ashes) you only miss out on crossbow bolts, lightning erms and aluring skulls anyway.

Black sludge dude? Demon king or aldrich?

Yea but I want him alive for sentimental reasons lol, but I also want the dragonslayer arrows he'll sell after irithyll.

aldrich

[Mikkor]

I havent sent greirat to irithyll yet, Patches is in the shrine, Siegward is in the well, Demon king is alive, pontiff is dead, Ive lit the distant manor bonfire but gone no further down road. Any tips? I'll deal with the dlcs in the meanwhile.

[shde2e]

You'll probably need to get siegward out of the well before killing more bosses. I think his questline will end if you keep him there too long. Greirat will surivive if he's sitting in the silver knight kitchen.

I think Patches can't save him anymore, that trigger dissappears after the pontiff is dead.

[Mikkor]

Originally posted by shde2e:

You'll probably need to get siegward out of the well before killing more bosses. I think his questline will end if you keep him there too long. Greirat will surivive if he's sitting in the silver knight kitchen.

I think Patches can't save him anymore, that trigger dissappears after the pontiff is dead.

Do I talk or check if siegward is there in the kitchen before or do I just throw him the armor?

[Sparhawk 59]

Buy his armour from patches drop it to him in well then send greirat off go to distant Manor bonfire run to seigward in kitchen exhaust all his chat bone back to bonfire then go check if greirat is back

[Mikkor]

Originally posted by Sparhawk 54:

Buy his armour from patches drop it to him in well then send greirat off go to distant Manor bonfire run to seigward in kitchen exhaust all his chat bone back to bonfire then go check if greirat is back

Don't I have to kill a boss before he returns?

[VideoGameHero]

If you already beat pontiff I don’t think you need to. Just free siegward from the well, go to shrine, send Geriert out, do some warping and then return to shrine he should return. If not just play forward a bit and he will return

[Mikkor]

Originally posted by VGH:

If you already beat pontiff I don’t think you need to. Just free siegward from the well, go to shrine, send Geriert out, do some warping and then return to shrine he should return. If not just play forward a bit and he will return

Thanks, this works
Checked that siegward was in place but didnt talk to him, greirat's ashes nor he was in position after a bit of warping so I killed old demon king and he was back to shrine after that.

Weird if patches couldnt have saved him after pontiff was down

[shde2e]

Originally posted by Mikkor:

Originally posted by VGH:

If you already beat pontiff I don’t think you need to. Just free siegward from the well, go to shrine, send Geriert out, do some warping and then return to shrine he should return. If not just play forward a bit and he will return

Thanks, this works
Checked that siegward was in place but didnt talk to him, greirat's ashes nor he was in position after a bit of warping so I killed old demon king and he was back to shrine after that.

Weird if patches couldnt have saved him after pontiff was down

Yeah, you need to tell him where you sent Greirat, and apparently he stops asking after the pontiff dies.

[^9[DSS]Dahaka]

Greirat dying is not dependent on pontiff being alive or not. The way it works, is when you send greirat to pillage, he goes away, and only returns after you have defeated the next boss (maybe any boss? I always do them in the same order.) Normally, greirat is going to die in Irithyl, and there are two ways to save him: First is progressing Siegwards questline, and throwing his armor to him when he is in the well. That will make him appear in Irithyl, as long as you dont progress further into irythil dungeon, siegward will remain in irithyl and save greirat.
the second way is, if you dont buy siegwards armor from patches, speak to him at firelink shrine, and tell him where greirat went. He will go and save greirat instead.
If you fail to do one of the two things I stated, greirat dies, boss defeated or not.

[Spogg]

Originally posted by ^9DSSDahaka:

Greirat dying is not dependent on pontiff being alive or not. The way it works, is when you send greirat to pillage, he goes away, and only returns after you have defeated the next boss (maybe any boss? I always do them in the same order.) Normally, greirat is going to die in Irithyl, and there are two ways to save him: First is progressing Siegwards questline, and throwing his armor to him when he is in the well. That will make him appear in Irithyl, as long as you dont progress further into irythil dungeon, siegward will remain in irithyl and save greirat.
the second way is, if you dont buy siegwards armor from patches, speak to him at firelink shrine, and tell him where greirat went. He will go and save greirat instead.
If you fail to do one of the two things I stated, greirat dies, boss defeated or not.

yes this, greirat will return after beating any boss, but going into irithyl dungeon after you have talked to siegward by the fireplace will load siegward into that area dooming greirat to die.

so here is a rundown of what to do.

1:give friendly onion boy his armor in the well (buy it from patches first he has it).

2: send greirat out for loot

3: go to onion boys second location in irithyl, talk to him by the bonfire, receive soup, he will fall asleep

4: kill a boss without going into irithyl dungeon (located past the distant manor) you will know that you are about to enter iriithyl dungeon because you will get invaded by an NPC called seeker of the spurned. (NOTE: if the old demon king is alive according to the wiki hes a good option to kill here)

5: greirat should return

greirat is kinda doomed to die at some point anyway that's his questline but if you wanna keep him alive until the end for what ever reason DONT send him to lothric castle (he will ask to go there after he comes back from irithyl and you have defeated dancer) he will 100% die at lothric no saving him.

Oh and btw if your doing his questline for the items if he dies at irithyl and you find his ashes and give them to the shine maid you will still get to buy the items he would have come back with.
but if he dies in irithyl or you never send him to lothric castle you will miss out on these items:
.Ember x6
.alluring skull x6
.lightning urms ∞
.splintering bolt ∞
.exploding bold ∞

hope this helps

[vongogh]

The wiki says Old Demon King need to be alive for Grairat to live. I had killed already, These were the conditions according to the Fextralife Wiki
1) Pontiff alive
2) Demon king alive, (but I had killed him already)
3) Siegward was in place at the kitchen. And
4) There is an invader. I think her name was Alva, she must be alive, she invaded me on the road to Irithyl Dungeon.

Wiki also mentions clearing the sewer of the centipede things, which I did multiple times, and the area is clear of loot.

When Grairat returned, he said something about cutting it close, and he specifically mentioned Siegward saving his a**. So if it's too late for one of the other conditions, just make sure Onion knight is sound asleep in the Kitchen - talk to him, the toasts you, then as usual falls asleep.

The Wiki also mentions if you have not bought the Catarina armor set at all from Patches, and you talk to him after sending Grairat to Irithyl, Patches will head off to rescue Greirat in place of the trapped Segward, Patches will wear the Caterina set to do so, if you already bought some part of the set, then I suppose farm a little and get all of it for Siegward.