good strength or quality build

[Ansakura]

as the title says what im looking for and i have looked up the information and videos but most is 2 years old and with the patches im not sure the information is accurate now

so my quest is as follows

what would be the best class to start with if someone wanted to go heavy hitting 2 handed weapon (high strength and stamina) or a good quality build (mix of str stamina and dex)

what would be a good weapon to use for a high strength build or a str dex mix

[76561198858121982]

Strength build with strength infused long sword

[Tritium]

Quality build's are fun to play around with because at 40 str and dex you will have access to almost all str weapons and have access to all dex weapons. This makes each playthrough fun and completely random as you'll swap around weapons to see which ones you will like.

[Ansakura]

what should i cap my health and stamina at

[miep miep]

Originally posted by shadowkin22:

what should i cap my health and stamina at

including rings you should end up at 40 vig and 30-40 endurance for meta level.

[𝓡𝓮𝓽𝓻𝓸𝓒𝓪𝓽]

Quality builds are pretty simple. Pump 40 points into both Strength and Dexterity, and get your Endurance up to 160. You don't necessarily have to pump 40 points into it as long as you're wearing something like the Ring of Favor. Pour the rest of your remaining points into Vigor.

Your ring choices are entirely up to you, but there aren't that many non-gimmicky rings in the game. This makes choosing your ring loadout a heck of a lot easier. As for your weapon of choice, that's also up to your personal preference. I like to use spears. I'm actually planning on making this quality build next.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/346756

[Scaryowl]

Originally posted by Alucard:

Quality builds are pretty simple. Pump 40 points into both Strength and Dexterity, and get your Endurance up to 160. You don't necessarily have to pump 40 points into it as long as you're wearing something like the Ring of Favor. Pour the rest of your remaining points into Vigor.

Your ring choices are entirely up to you, but there aren't that many non-gimmicky rings in the game. This makes choosing your ring loadout a heck of a lot easier. As for your weapon of choice, that's also up to your personal preference. I like to use spears. I'm actually planning on making this quality build next.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/346756

You forgot vitality, which is fairly important since it's one of the few stats that makes you take less damage in every way.

[[MD]Fox]

Strength, you get to 66 STR and heavy infuse weapons.
Quality, you will mainly use magical and boss weapons. Using refined gems is usually worse than heavy or sharp gems now.

EDIT: You want to hit atleast 34 endurance and 39 vig for meta level (including pchain).

[miep miep]

Originally posted by Alucard:

Quality builds are pretty simple. Pump 40 points into both Strength and Dexterity, and get your Endurance up to 160. You don't necessarily have to pump 40 points into it as long as you're wearing something like the Ring of Favor. Pour the rest of your remaining points into Vigor.

Your ring choices are entirely up to you, but there aren't that many non-gimmicky rings in the game. This makes choosing your ring loadout a heck of a lot easier. As for your weapon of choice, that's also up to your personal preference. I like to use spears. I'm actually planning on making this quality build next.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/346756

rofl 54 vigor. You know what the difference between 53 vig and 54 vig is? 4 HP points..... what a waste.

[Ansakura]

i like to use the 2 handed swords with a melee build....the one sword i saw that i liked is gotton in the road to sacrifice area.....off one of the 2 guys that is near the ladder leading to the farron keep area

[𝓡𝓮𝓽𝓻𝓸𝓒𝓪𝓽]

Originally posted by miep miep:

Originally posted by Alucard:

Quality builds are pretty simple. Pump 40 points into both Strength and Dexterity, and get your Endurance up to 160. You don't necessarily have to pump 40 points into it as long as you're wearing something like the Ring of Favor. Pour the rest of your remaining points into Vigor.

Your ring choices are entirely up to you, but there aren't that many non-gimmicky rings in the game. This makes choosing your ring loadout a heck of a lot easier. As for your weapon of choice, that's also up to your personal preference. I like to use spears. I'm actually planning on making this quality build next.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/346756

rofl 54 vigor. You know what the difference between 53 vig and 54 vig is? 4 HP points..... what a waste.

Well, pumping more stat points into both Strength and Dexterity will only yield around a 7 AR increase in damage. Stamina is capped at 160, so it's pointless to pump more into Endurance.

I could always pump the remaining stat points into Attunement to increase my FP from 72 > 150, but it won't matter much. All in all, those stat points are wasted anyways because there's not much else to actually reliably pump into anything that's going to make any sort of noticeable difference.

Edit: Fixed it. Pumped the rest into attunement so I could spam the WA a couple more times. Ultimately won't make a huge difference though.

[Tritium]

Originally posted by MDFox:

Strength, you get to 66 STR and heavy infuse weapons.
Quality, you will mainly use magical and boss weapons. Using refined gems is usually worse than heavy or sharp gems now.

EDIT: You want to hit atleast 34 endurance and 39 vig for meta level (including pchain).

Quality doesn't mean you will only use boss weapons. On the contrary, there a plenty of weapons that are excellent on a quality build. As far as magic goes, you will likely be using resins since the 40 str and dex leaves you just enough room for endurance, vigor, and some vitality.

[Scaryowl]

Originally posted by Tritium-X:

Originally posted by MDFox:

Strength, you get to 66 STR and heavy infuse weapons.
Quality, you will mainly use magical and boss weapons. Using refined gems is usually worse than heavy or sharp gems now.

EDIT: You want to hit atleast 34 endurance and 39 vig for meta level (including pchain).

Quality doesn't mean you will only use boss weapons. On the contrary, there a plenty of weapons that are excellent on a quality build. As far as magic goes, you will likely be using resins since the 40 str and dex leaves you just enough room for endurance, vigor, and some vitality.

The entire draw of a quality build is that you will get the max damage potential of almost any weapon you can wield.

[[MD]Fox]

Originally posted by Scaryowl:

Originally posted by Tritium-X:

Quality doesn't mean you will only use boss weapons. On the contrary, there a plenty of weapons that are excellent on a quality build. As far as magic goes, you will likely be using resins since the 40 str and dex leaves you just enough room for endurance, vigor, and some vitality.

The entire draw of a quality build is that you will get the max damage potential of almost any weapon you can wield.

Not in the most recent patches of Dark Souls 3. Quality gives sub-par damage compared to heavy or sharp on most weapons.

[Tritium]

Originally posted by MDFox:

Originally posted by Scaryowl:

The entire draw of a quality build is that you will get the max damage potential of almost any weapon you can wield.

Not in the most recent patches of Dark Souls 3. Quality gives sub-par damage compared to heavy or sharp on most weapons.

Are you talking about sharp and heavy gems over refined? If so then of course both will be better. You can still have a 40 dex & str character for example using the Astora greatsword with a sharp infusion and it will still be better than a refined gem. Just because you are a quality build does not mean you need to use a refined to get the max damage possible.

If your not talking about sharp and heavy gems over refined, then I have no idea what your trying to say.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Scaryowl:

Originally posted by Tritium-X:

Quality doesn't mean you will only use boss weapons. On the contrary, there a plenty of weapons that are excellent on a quality build. As far as magic goes, you will likely be using resins since the 40 str and dex leaves you just enough room for endurance, vigor, and some vitality.

The entire draw of a quality build is that you will get the max damage potential of almost any weapon you can wield.

No, the selling point is that you can use like 95% of the stuff quite effectively, but it's almost never an optimal build. Unless we're talking about max level I suppose (but even then Refined isn't necessarily the best infusion).