Sellsword twinblades or Warden twinblades?

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I cant decide on those whatsoever. I really like the look of warden twinblades and the fact it has the bleed effect, whereas im kinda discouraged by it's disadvantage is damage compared to Sellsword twinblades. I have 60/50 STR/DEX, could anyone be so kind to share their worthy experience to which weapon is cosiderably better to use.
thanks

[Seferofe]

Sellswords will do a good bit more damage, and while warden twinblades have bleed, you'll never really bleed anything unless it's bleed infused on a luck build. If it's just for PvE then you can go for the Warden twinblades if you want, it's just that the sellswords are better.

[Bike Knight]

Sellsword Twinblades is straight up better since bleed got nerfed into near-uselessness. There's a bigger problem though;
>60 STR/50 DEX
Holy hell, fix that garbage. If you're going physical, you'd be far better off going minimum STR requirement and 80 DEX with sharp twinblades.

[Seferofe]

Originally posted by Bike Knight:

Sellsword Twinblades is straight up better since bleed got nerfed into near-uselessness. There's a bigger problem though;
>60 STR/50 DEX
Holy hell, fix that garbage. If you're going physical, you'd be far better off going minimum STR requirement and 80 DEX with sharp twinblades.

They're probably going for that so they can use any weapon for PvE. It's nowhere near optimised, but it'll do fine in PvE. Though I'm not sure whether refined or sharp would be better.

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Originally posted by Bike Knight:

Sellsword Twinblades is straight up better since bleed got nerfed into near-uselessness. There's a bigger problem though;
>60 STR/50 DEX
Holy hell, fix that garbage. If you're going physical, you'd be far better off going minimum STR requirement and 80 DEX with sharp twinblades.

i did my other char with 10/80 str dex just for the warden twinblades, the main one is kinda average for everything w/ magic and stuff

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Originally posted by Seferofe:

Originally posted by Bike Knight:

Sellsword Twinblades is straight up better since bleed got nerfed into near-uselessness. There's a bigger problem though;
>60 STR/50 DEX
Holy hell, fix that garbage. If you're going physical, you'd be far better off going minimum STR requirement and 80 DEX with sharp twinblades.

They're probably going for that so they can use any weapon for PvE. It's nowhere near optimised, but it'll do fine in PvE. Though I'm not sure whether refined or sharp would be better.

refined is better since str and dex are about the same

[Seferofe]

Originally posted by noob slark:

Originally posted by Seferofe:

They're probably going for that so they can use any weapon for PvE. It's nowhere near optimised, but it'll do fine in PvE. Though I'm not sure whether refined or sharp would be better.

refined is better since str and dex are about the same

Not always. Some weapons just do terrible with refined, even if your dex and str are the exact same. Rapiers being a good example. Though it is actually refined. Thought you said 50 str, 60 dex. It's why I didn't know if sharp would've been better.

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Originally posted by Seferofe:

Originally posted by noob slark:

refined is better since str and dex are about the same

Not always. Some weapons just do terrible with refined, even if your dex and str are the exact same. Rapiers being a good example. Though it is actually refined. Thought you said 50 str, 60 dex. It's why I didn't know if sharp would've been better.

so overall, sellsword twinblades are better just because bleed is* rubbish at its finest

[Seferofe]

Originally posted by noob slark:

Originally posted by Seferofe:

Not always. Some weapons just do terrible with refined, even if your dex and str are the exact same. Rapiers being a good example. Though it is actually refined. Thought you said 50 str, 60 dex. It's why I didn't know if sharp would've been better.

so overall, sellsword twinblades are better just because bleed if rubbish at its finest

Pretty much. On your build a refined sellswords beat refined warden twinblades by 27 AR. Nothing insane, but it'll add up in damage due to how quick those things attack.

Again, warden twinblades are mostly just for a bleed build or to be used with carthus rouge. Though like the bandit dagger they'd work amazingly well against the Pontiff beasts and the Manus hand enemies.

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Originally posted by Seferofe:

Originally posted by noob slark:

so overall, sellsword twinblades are better just because bleed if rubbish at its finest

Pretty much. On your build a refined sellswords beat refined warden twinblades by 27 AR. Nothing insane, but it'll add up in damage due to how quick those things attack.

Again, warden twinblades are mostly just for a bleed build or to be used with carthus rouge. Though like the bandit dagger they'd work amazingly well against the Pontiff beasts and the Manus hand enemies.

yeh that makes sense, thank you ever so much!