Arbalest or Dragonrider Bow?

[stan.klingenbart]

Hi,

I'm at 19/15 STR/DEX (could bump these a little though if necessary) as i mainly use a raw Falchion with a Black Knight Shield for PVE and put the rest into VIG,END and Vit, which works great.

Now i'm looking for a decent ranged weapon (no magic) for a little sniping.

In the end it comes down to Arbalest vs. Dragonrider Bow.

Arrows are Cheaper, Scales are more expensive, damagewise they're similar, what bests the other in points of range/speed/endurance?

thx

[Mogrim]

With 18/14 in sth/dex the Soulsplanner said:
Knight’s Crossbow +10 = 280 dmg
Arbalest +10 = 273 dmg
Heavy Crossbow +10 = 252 dmg
Light Crossbow +10 = 224 dmg
Longbow +10 = 184 dmg
Composite Bow +10 = 175 dmg
Short Bow +10 = 173 dmg

If I were you I will take Knight’s Crossbow cause low requirements (12/8) and no-scaling which means you can use it with meny builds with the same results.

[stan.klingenbart]

Originally posted by Prince Mogrim:

With 18/14 in sth/dex the Soulsplanner said:
Knight’s Crossbow +10 = 280 dmg
Arbalest +10 = 273 dmg
Heavy Crossbow +10 = 252 dmg
Light Crossbow +10 = 224 dmg
Longbow +10 = 184 dmg
Composite Bow +10 = 175 dmg
Short Bow +10 = 173 dmg

If I were you I will take Knight’s Crossbow cause low requirements (12/8) and no-scaling which means you can use it with meny builds with the same results.

Yeah i saw that too, yet 273 pure physical damage is way more than 280 split damage...

And at 19/15 the Dragonrider bow does 253, which seems decent... so I'm stuck between Dragonrider Bow or Arbalest :/

Weight is quite similar, Arrows are cheaper, yet Titanite Scales are more scarce...

how much do they differ in range/speed/endurance consumption?

[Danger Dwarf]

Originally posted by stan.klingenbart:

Originally posted by Prince Mogrim:

With 18/14 in sth/dex the Soulsplanner said:
Knight’s Crossbow +10 = 280 dmg
Arbalest +10 = 273 dmg
Heavy Crossbow +10 = 252 dmg
Light Crossbow +10 = 224 dmg
Longbow +10 = 184 dmg
Composite Bow +10 = 175 dmg
Short Bow +10 = 173 dmg

If I were you I will take Knight’s Crossbow cause low requirements (12/8) and no-scaling which means you can use it with meny builds with the same results.

Yeah i saw that too, yet 273 pure physical damage is way more than 280 split damage...

And at 19/15 the Dragonrider bow does 253, which seems decent... so I'm stuck between Dragonrider Bow or Arbalest :/

Weight is quite similar, Arrows are cheaper, yet Titanite Scales are more scarce...

how much do they differ in range/speed/endurance consumption?

With crossbows you can use them one handed so that's always a plus even in PvE.

[Captain Pike]

Originally posted by stan.klingenbart:

Originally posted by Prince Mogrim:

With 18/14 in sth/dex the Soulsplanner said:
Knight’s Crossbow +10 = 280 dmg
Arbalest +10 = 273 dmg
Heavy Crossbow +10 = 252 dmg
Light Crossbow +10 = 224 dmg
Longbow +10 = 184 dmg
Composite Bow +10 = 175 dmg
Short Bow +10 = 173 dmg

If I were you I will take Knight’s Crossbow cause low requirements (12/8) and no-scaling which means you can use it with meny builds with the same results.

Yeah i saw that too, yet 273 pure physical damage is way more than 280 split damage...

And at 19/15 the Dragonrider bow does 253, which seems decent... so I'm stuck between Dragonrider Bow or Arbalest :/

Weight is quite similar, Arrows are cheaper, yet Titanite Scales are more scarce...

how much do they differ in range/speed/endurance consumption?

I feel that the Arbalest arcs much harder but it can be used 1 handed.
Edit: You can also wait to shoot your shot.

[Dollmaker]

If you wanna go for raw dmg the Arbalest is your best go, if you want range then the sniper crossbow and if you want elemental then Knights crossbow with Lighting arrows

[76561198836038854]

Originally posted by stan.klingenbart:

Originally posted by Prince Mogrim:

With 18/14 in sth/dex the Soulsplanner said:
Knight’s Crossbow +10 = 280 dmg
Arbalest +10 = 273 dmg
Heavy Crossbow +10 = 252 dmg
Light Crossbow +10 = 224 dmg
Longbow +10 = 184 dmg
Composite Bow +10 = 175 dmg
Short Bow +10 = 173 dmg

If I were you I will take Knight’s Crossbow cause low requirements (12/8) and no-scaling which means you can use it with meny builds with the same results.

Yeah i saw that too, yet 273 pure physical damage is way more than 280 split damage...

And at 19/15 the Dragonrider bow does 253, which seems decent... so I'm stuck between Dragonrider Bow or Arbalest :/

Weight is quite similar, Arrows are cheaper, yet Titanite Scales are more scarce...

how much do they differ in range/speed/endurance consumption?

Don't forget lightning bolts, so knight's cross bow would be doing 250 pure lightning damage with 140 physical. Arbalest burns through bolts 3 times faster than any other xbow, don't forget that either.

[Captain Pike]

Originally posted by True Invader:

Originally posted by stan.klingenbart:

Yeah i saw that too, yet 273 pure physical damage is way more than 280 split damage...

And at 19/15 the Dragonrider bow does 253, which seems decent... so I'm stuck between Dragonrider Bow or Arbalest :/

Weight is quite similar, Arrows are cheaper, yet Titanite Scales are more scarce...

how much do they differ in range/speed/endurance consumption?

Don't forget lightning bolts, so knight's cross bow would be doing 250 pure lightning damage with 140 physical. Arbalest burns through bolts 3 times faster than any other xbow, don't forget that either.

You mean the Avelyn?

[76561198836038854]

Originally posted by Sir Pike:

Originally posted by True Invader:

Don't forget lightning bolts, so knight's cross bow would be doing 250 pure lightning damage with 140 physical. Arbalest burns through bolts 3 times faster than any other xbow, don't forget that either.

You mean the Avelyn?

oh yeah avelynn, must have been misreading derp.

[Captain Pike]

Originally posted by True Invader:

Originally posted by Sir Pike:

You mean the Avelyn?

oh yeah avelynn, must have been misreading derp.

You made me contemplate my entire loadout lmao.

[plant]

Originally posted by Prince Mogrim:

With 18/14 in sth/dex the Soulsplanner said:
Knight’s Crossbow +10 = 280 dmg
Arbalest +10 = 273 dmg
Heavy Crossbow +10 = 252 dmg
Light Crossbow +10 = 224 dmg
Longbow +10 = 184 dmg
Composite Bow +10 = 175 dmg
Short Bow +10 = 173 dmg

If I were you I will take Knight’s Crossbow cause low requirements (12/8) and no-scaling which means you can use it with meny builds with the same results.

Knight's Crossbow is split damage, use lightning bolts for effectiveness

[stan.klingenbart]

so no love for the Dragonrider Bow?

[Danger Dwarf]

Originally posted by stan.klingenbart:

so no love for the Dragonrider Bow?

Sorry man, crossbows just seem to have the edge this game, if you want to use a bow though go for it, it's PvE after all, have fun.

[76561198836038854]

Originally posted by stan.klingenbart:

so no love for the Dragonrider Bow?

It's slow, can't use lightining or exploding ammo, and does not even have the quick-shot that the short/composite bow BUT I MEAN if you don't care and just want a bow it's decent

[Seferofe]

I didn't see it mentioned, so I'll say it anyway. Crossbows don't actually scale, they're like raw weapons. That's bad the higher SL you are (though still work perfectly fine at meta level), but it means you don't need to worry about upping dex and str for damage. Arbalest is generally the best for damage, but is also one of the heavier ones.

If you're fine with a bit less damage then I'd recommend the heavy crossbow. A good bit lighter and requires 14 strength rather than the 18 for arbalest. Problem is you'd have to farm for it.

And yeah, medium bows are pretty bad besides luring enemies or just picking at them from long range. Doubt they'd ever really work in PvP unless you're fighting an AFK player. Exploding bolt crossbows for life.

[Captain Pike]

Originally posted by stan.klingenbart:

so no love for the Dragonrider Bow?

It's my favorite regular bow but it loses due to praticality.