Best Grave Warden Twinblades bleed build?

[OnionBro]

I'm using the Warden Twinblades, and want to maximize the bleed with the hollow infusion, any ideas on stats for SL 120-140?

[Seferofe]

If you want max bleed and bleed damage then don't go hollow. Hollow is just for damage on luck builds now after the nerf. So infuse those with bleed and get that luck and you'll be bleeding them dry in no time. Though I do suggest a backup weapon just in case.

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Originally posted by Seferofe:

If you want max bleed and bleed damage then don't go hollow. Hollow is just for damage on luck builds now after the nerf. So infuse those with bleed and get that luck and you'll be bleeding them dry in no time. Though I do suggest a backup weapon just in case.

Blood infusion and 50 luck.

[OnionBro]

Originally posted by Seferofe:

If you want max bleed and bleed damage then don't go hollow. Hollow is just for damage on luck builds now after the nerf. So infuse those with bleed and get that luck and you'll be bleeding them dry in no time. Though I do suggest a backup weapon just in case.

Alright.

[OnionBro]

Originally posted by Seferofe:

If you want max bleed and bleed damage then don't go hollow. Hollow is just for damage on luck builds now after the nerf. So infuse those with bleed and get that luck and you'll be bleeding them dry in no time. Though I do suggest a backup weapon just in case.

It's not that bleed is all i want, i just want good bleed to top off my Twinblades, because with the Blood infusion you cant buff, so is hollow gem useless?

[40+13x-3=17x-363]

Originally posted by OnionBro:

Originally posted by Seferofe:

If you want max bleed and bleed damage then don't go hollow. Hollow is just for damage on luck builds now after the nerf. So infuse those with bleed and get that luck and you'll be bleeding them dry in no time. Though I do suggest a backup weapon just in case.

It's not that bleed is all i want, i just want good bleed to top off my Twinblades, because with the Blood infusion you cant buff, so is hollow gem useless?

Blood infusion=less damage on each hit but higher build up and damage when it procs.
Hollow infusion=more damage on each hit but less build up and damage when it procs.

[Sticky White Stuff]

Bleed is fun, so is poison. But good luck with that in PvP. In PvE, it's a killer build on almost every boss. I tried 40/40 DEX/LCK with blood gem infusions, didn't go that well. But one weapon that is also good for bleed are the regular claws, because they have the hyperarmor in their WA.

Proccing poison is easy on Ghru Dagger, but bleed is a bit harder.
Hollow is not useless, because you can spend more stats on other things, and infuse your shield + weapon hollow, gaining +5 luck for each one. Hollow weapons can also be buffed with the rouge. So they give you more damage per hit too.
But blood gems are the way to go for pure bleed, no buffing. However you are looking at lesser damage and you will have to depend on that bleed proc.

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People stıll tryıng bleed ın PvP ?

Try frost .

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Hollow is nerfed to the ground IMO Sharp/Heavy/Chaos/Dark got reaaaally strong at the same time of the nerf. I would go Dark Wardens w/ Dorthy's Gnaw. Might be a challenge to hit with it PVP but during invasions its actually OP.. as soon as they are in the middle of an attack w/another player gnaw his flesh and pool their blood for others to slip on

[Xengre]

Bleed proc is larger on blood gem bleeds and builds noticeably faster. Hollow is honestly not worth it for a bleed build. On enemies susceptible to bleed pure bleed is all you really need anyways and it will become more potent in later NG+s and on tankier bosses because the damage continues to grow stronger (even more so if you have phantoms in your game boosting boss HP as well) due to scaling % damage while other damage sources will fall off. Bandit Knife is best bet, imo, tho for bleeding.

[gFreak696]

My way is;
Infuse hollow, level luck, add Carthus Rouge.

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Originally posted by Lolimancer:

Originally posted by OnionBro:

It's not that bleed is all i want, i just want good bleed to top off my Twinblades, because with the Blood infusion you cant buff, so is hollow gem useless?

Blood infusion=less damage on each hit but higher build up and damage when it procs.
Hollow infusion=more damage on each hit but less build up and damage when it procs.

Pretty sure the bleed dmg depends on enemy HP, so no difference there.

The difference in proc. is what changes, and you should focus on what you do best with, as your choices are

Moderate attk dmg with moderate bleed proc
Lower attk dmg with higher bleed proc

Both are very viable, but depends on your strats, how you expect to lay out dmg, how you go about it and most importantly, does it feel good?

I was running hollow for the longest time then after the patch I switched to bleed. My personal view atm is if I want a straight bleed build, I'll go blood infused. Otherwise if I'm a dex build, I'd hollow some weapon for the xtra luck and proc bonus, then carthus rouge and focus on my dex strats, while I apply some bleed as a bonus

[Vinyltavia]

Solution; Hollow Warden's and Blood Warden's.
Swap between the two as necessary.