New Game Plus: reliable numbers wrt. enemy damage, health and souls gained ?

[Gamall Wednesday Ida]

Hello,

I am trying to find precise data regarding how NG+n behaves as a function of n wrt. enemy damage, health and souls gained.

The two main wikis offer extremely detailed data in that regard.

[F] https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/New+Game+Plus
[D] http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/game-mechanics-general#new-game-plus

Unfortunately, they contradict each other in many respects. Either patches changes that since they were written, or at least one of them summoned data out of their inner Dark, so to speak.

Are there other detailed sources on this ? I'm especially interested in raw (and recent) data for hp / souls etc for a given enemy through several game cycles.


Regards,
G.

[JaKeD]

40% increase on enemy HP and damage on NG+, then on each cycle after it is 8% until NG+7. NG+ is considered much easier than NG due to your character having access to good items and stats straight away. You really won't notice a huge difference in enemy strength until +3/4.

[Gamall Wednesday Ida]

Repeating the data from a source (here [F]) cannot possibly answer a question about the *reliability* of that very source.

Unless you are claiming to have arrived at those figures through independent testing ?

[JaKeD]

There was also a giant bomb article that had those numbers as well as the Fextralife one, I don't have the link but i'm sure it is out there. The numbers on [D] seem a little too high to be true.

[Gamall Wednesday Ida]

Problem is, if said Giant bomb article (which I haven't found after a cursory search) got its info *from* [F] (or vice versa), it doesn't lend any credence to it. Only if they ran their own tests can it do so.

The second point is more interesting, however.

NG+1 doesn't seem shocking. Starting enemies have very low HP (50 ish), so it wouldn't surprise me if they were buffed more strongly than, say, DLC enemies.

Note: For NG+N, N>1, keep in mind that [F] uses percentages relative to NG+(N-1) whereas [D] uses percentages relative to NG+1 (I misread it the first time, and it looked like a strong increase, when it's actually less than that of [F])

Data here: http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/enemygroup:grave-warden , on souls (assuming it's not made up), *does* show a five-fold increase in souls from NG to NG+, for instance. [F] does not have the same data available, but assuming the raw data is correct, it's more consistent with D than F.

[JaKeD]

I would probably play around on your own and come to your own conclusions and tests. Not trying to sound rude, but the problem with those two wikis is they have a lot of incomplete stuff on it, and some nonsense too.

[Gamall Wednesday Ida]

The whole point of the thread was *precisely* to find out if somebody else did their own tests.