Gave rosaria 1 tongue! Now i have to start a new game! Fun!

[RandalMcdaniel]

This game is someone with OCD's worst ♥♥♥♥ing nightmare. These are the hands down worst developers on earth

No warning no "This action will have unforeseen consequences??" or anything??

The whole entire game before killing any boss i minimize and read up on the dark souls wiki to ensure my actions do not have to result in me starting a new game

It says in a small bulletpoint beneath ROSARIA on the wiki that i will be able to use an NPC as a bossfight-helper if i give rosaria at least one tongue

So i give rosaria a tongue, no big deal right? Go back to firelink shrine


NOW THIS C*NT AT FIRELINK SHRINE WONT ♥♥♥♥ING TALK TO ME

Now i cant get the silvercat ring which would have allowed me to do away with my spook spell and free up an additional attunement slot for something worthwhile.

I have ZERO interest in playing through the game multiple times like some mindless idiot, so forget new game +

seriously ♥♥♥♥ this game

Im starting a 3rd new game and i am going to be backing up the save file manually after every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ step i take

[Vectura]

Well, you DID just perform an act as part of a covenant who are the lifelong enemies of the NPC you are talking about.

[Hi]

Originally posted by RandalMcdaniel:

This game is someone with OCD's worst ♥♥♥♥ing nightmare. These are the hands down worst developers on earth

No warning no "This action will have unforeseen consequences??" or anything??

The whole entire game before killing any boss i minimize and read up on the dark souls wiki to ensure my actions do not have to result in me starting a new game

It says in a small bulletpoint beneath ROSARIA on the wiki that i will be able to use an NPC as a bossfight-helper if i give rosaria at least one tongue

So i give rosaria a tongue, no big deal right? Go back to firelink shrine


NOW THIS C*NT AT FIRELINK SHRINE WONT ♥♥♥♥ING TALK TO ME

Now i cant get the silvercat ring which would have allowed me to do away with my spook spell and free up an additional attunement slot for something worthwhile.

I have ZERO interest in playing through the game multiple times like some mindless idiot, so forget new game +

seriously ♥♥♥♥ this game

Im starting a 3rd new game and i am going to be backing up the save file manually after every ♥♥♥♥ING step i take

just don't be stupid lol

[Seferofe]

What do you expect would happen if you join a group of rabid invaders hellbent on hunting down and killing others? That Sirris, a sworn enemy of said group, would just go: "Oh it's fine if you want to kill innocents, I'll be your friend anyway!"? Because that's not how Dark Souls works.

There should be consequences for one group if you join the other, no matter how small it is. Hell, not like you miss too much item wise. Only big thing you'll really want is a useful ring, that's it besides fashion.

Oh, and if the game triggers you so much, why not play something different rather than whining on the forums? Actually, even better! Why not just play the game normally, and then re-go through it on NG (or a new game since you absolutely hate NG+ for some reason). On the second time you could go for the other options that you missed.

[psheue]

Aren´t you the guy that got mad after accepting to help Gael in Ariandel? It really sounds like DS is not for you.

You cannot complete every side quest in one playthrough.

[GewoonRobbie]

Better to uninstall and go back to farmville.

[Frisolino]

This is what you get when developers hold peoples hand all the time.
I don't know if you played the first part of the series (i assume you didn't because you wouldn't get this angry if you did) but that one is way more cryptic on questlines and one small wrong step can get you a very long painful experience (i remember getting stuck on Capra Demon because i was too ignorant to realise that i can drop some equip to roll faster).

Getting penalized for making mistakes is a huge part of FromSoftware's game design and yes that may suck but on the same side the game rewards you for becoming better or being smart and observant (Payyring is a good example since it's difficult for newbies to master but very rewarding against certain otherwise difficult bosses)

TL;DR
This game won't hold your hand like other Triple A titles. Should not make you rage that much, though. Because it also rewards you on the same page. You just have to use your head a bit more.

[plant]

Sirris only reveals that she hates Rosaria’s Fingers when you do the second part of her quest in Irithyll. He’s only guilty of being uninformed.

Dark Souls is meant to be played blindly. The game purposefully forces you to discover things on your own.

You can replay the game after you beat it. The game gives you the option of starting Journey 2 (known as New Game Plus), and you retain all items (except for special items like Divine Tomes and Sorcery Scrolls) and covenant ranks. Sirris will only get pissy if you give a tongue in your current journey, and is not affected by previous offerings in other journeys.

If you’re going for every achievement, you will need to go to NG++. It’s alright if you miss an item or two.

You are missing a gesture (if you didn’t speak to her twice already), a Blessed Mail Breaker (easy to recreate), the Cat Ring (just use Spook), her armor (not that great), a Talisman (also not great), and another armor set if you fail her questline.

[Serrassi Effect]

if youre just going to ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan everytime you make a mistake, just use a guide and stop acting like an autistic manlet on steam

[RandalMcdaniel]

Thats fine make the game as interf*ckulated as you want. Just give me the ability to save the game manually

[RandalMcdaniel]

You know developers are garbage when they make something as general as stat-respeccing tied to a dark-decision NPC of the game

[Serrassi Effect]

you can use the stat respec as much as you want without affecting sirris's questline. do not mistake the game designer's intention with your own ignorance.

[RandalMcdaniel]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝Serrassi Effect⎠⎞:

you can use the stat respec as much as you want without affecting sirris's questline. do not mistake the game designer's intention with your own ignorance.

My own ignorance? Do you know that i've been reading the entire wiki page word for word before killing any single enemy or joining any single covenant?

[Serrassi Effect]

and yet there you are, still wrong and acting like an entitled brat despite the fact you are wrong. Maybe you should get off the game and go read that wiki again.

[SomethingSomethingDarkside]

Appreciate this OP, restaurant I just got take out from forgot to put salt on the fries again. But this is a wee bit more then what I needed.

As to the topic at hand. The game has always been on the cryptic side. You have had 2 prior games to learn this much. 3 if demons was the same in that area. Had about 6yrs and some change to get it and decide if it was for you. Full 9 and some change if demons included.

To get everything requires multiple playthroughs (or at the max, just one) to learn what works to what end. Or use a guide. If you don't wish to do either. Then tough.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by RandalMcdaniel:

Originally posted by ⎛⎝Serrassi Effect⎠⎞:

you can use the stat respec as much as you want without affecting sirris's questline. do not mistake the game designer's intention with your own ignorance.

My own ignorance? Do you know that i've been reading the entire wiki page word for word before killing any single enemy or joining any single covenant?

Soooo... your problem is your lack of reading comprehension?

To give you a hint... the fextralife's page for the Silvercat Ring... it links you to Sirris' page.

On that page, there's a big fat QUESTLINE QUIRKS AND FAILURES.

Literally the first sentence of that is literally "She leaves Firelink Shrine and becomes hostile if the player gives Rosaria a Pale Tongue to increase her covenant's level and may leave if the player kills Company Captain Yorshka (as of regulation 1.05, simply changing your appearance or reallocating stats does not fail her questline)."